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20 Oct 2015, 5:21 am

https://mensa.dk/om-mensa/faq#spg23

A scheme over deviations. It´s in danish, but the terms should be recognizable for english speaking readers.


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20 Oct 2015, 6:39 am

Just an observation relating to myself:

Times like this my inability to work with foreign languages really becomes obvious to me. It's funny how sometimes you can go a large part of your life without being affected too much by a learning disability and almost forget that there are some things your brain just completely refuses to cooperate with.

The only thing I can get out of that is that a lot of the first boxes say "ret*d" in them and I do not know why.

And one says something about new york mensa. I think.. except they didn't capitalize NY. And I have no idea why one state would have it's own while the other 49 don't. So that can't be right. Maybe "ny" means "the" or something..?

Like I said, just an example of where my brain stops cooperating.

(as an aside, why don't links open in new windows automatically? that should be coded into the forum software, really. that was frustrating to start a reply, re-click the link, and be taken away from WP.)


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20 Oct 2015, 6:48 am

So am I looking at the third column for that chart?



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20 Oct 2015, 7:43 am

Eeeh, NY means NEW.

I´ll translate.
1. column: "Beskrivelse..." = translation after Wechsler
2. col: Percentile as you know it.
3. col: "Standard afvigelse (SA)" = standard deviation
4. col: "IK ved SA=15" = IQ by standard deviation 15, Wechsler scale. (New Mensa scale)
5. col: IQ by standard deviation 16, Stanford Binet.
6. col: IQ by standard deviation 24, Catell (Old Mensa scale)

Levels: Column 1, down:
Lines 1- 7 represents:
seriously ret*d,
moderately ret*d,
slightly ret*d,
borderline ret*d (70),
less gifted,
less bright
normal to average at 100.

Then follows:
Line 10: Bright- normal (kvik-normal)
Line 14: Gifted (begavet)
Line 18: Highly Gifted (højt begavet)
Line 19: Mensa range.
Line 20: RAPM ceiling (loft)
Line 21: ISPE
Line 23: WAIS-III ceiling
Line 26: Prometheus
Line 32: Mega

I hope, it´s better :)
Column 3: Standard deviation: I suppose, that is a scale of its own. Mysteries not revealed. The result in IQ points by deviation starts in col. 4.


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20 Oct 2015, 8:36 am

Thank you for translating!

I guess my next question is, what do we do with it? Do I compare my result with one of the columns in order to find something out?

I'm not mathematically or scientifically minded, I must admit. :oops:


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20 Oct 2015, 8:49 am

LivingInParentheses wrote:
Thank you for translating!

I guess my next question is, what do we do with it? Do I compare my result with one of the columns in order to find something out?

I'm not mathematically or scientifically minded, I must admit. :oops:

Look at the column titled

IK ved SA=15
Wechsler scala

and compare it to the left for the raven's test we all did.



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20 Oct 2015, 9:23 am

Exactly, iliketrees!
....and from there, LivingInParentheses, you can compare with other deviations - but I think, that 15 is standard in most calculations.
But if your Raven results (+153) is calculated by deviation 16, you will still have 149 on a Wechsler scale (Mensas scale). :-)
----but I just had a look and it seems, that they are using the modern deviation 15.


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20 Oct 2015, 11:00 am

Jensen wrote:
https://mensa.dk/om-mensa/faq#spg23

A scheme over deviations. It´s in danish, but the terms should be recognizable for english speaking readers.


Awkward Google translate:
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... aq%23spg23


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20 Oct 2015, 12:50 pm

Perfect! :-)


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20 Oct 2015, 1:18 pm

IK = IQ
SA = SD (standard deviation)



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20 Oct 2015, 2:24 pm

I didnt take the test - since I don't trust online IQ tests since they aren't normed properly. But I do know how I'd score since I know how I do on the nonverbal reasoning portions of real IQ tests. I'd probably score just over 100. As for me, my verbal reasoning skills are measured far above my nonverbal. I'm better at thinking through things in words than visually.

I don't think its necessarily true that everyone with ASD has better nonverbal reasoning than verbal. In fact I think this is one of the documented differences between people who were diagnosed with AS vs HFA. People with HFA often show better nonverbal compared to verbal , while people with Asperger's often show the opposite.



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20 Oct 2015, 2:33 pm

I'm diagnosed AS but my nonverbal is better than verbal.



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20 Oct 2015, 5:49 pm

iliketrees wrote:
LivingInParentheses wrote:
Thank you for translating!

I guess my next question is, what do we do with it? Do I compare my result with one of the columns in order to find something out?

I'm not mathematically or scientifically minded, I must admit. :oops:

Look at the column titled

IK ved SA=15
Wechsler scala

and compare it to the left for the raven's test we all did.


I feel so bad because you're trying so hard to help me but I just don't understand. The raven test we took isn't on there anywhere, is it? I don't know what I would find out even if I did understand though so maybe I will just let it go and stop wasting your time. :)


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20 Oct 2015, 5:53 pm

Jensen wrote:
Exactly, iliketrees!
....and from there, LivingInParentheses, you can compare with other deviations - but I think, that 15 is standard in most calculations.
But if your Raven results (+153) is calculated by deviation 16, you will still have 149 on a Wechsler scale (Mensas scale). :-)
----but I just had a look and it seems, that they are using the modern deviation 15.


Ahh I get it thank you, and also to everyone else who has helped with links and translations and advice. :)

I guess I found one of my mental blocks - combine foreign language with math and I'm just lost. I'm lucky to have you all here to help. thanks again!


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20 Apr 2016, 6:37 am

I clicked on an IQ test link on the WrongPlanet page presuming it was a WP free test but after completing the test and clicking on the button to " get your result by text " I was told advised that it had just cost me £5 /. $7 ! !

Bladdy cheek I say .


I'm too trusting it seems .



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20 Apr 2016, 7:08 am

The link is broken!! !


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