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07 Oct 2008, 10:07 am

Synth wrote:
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I don't really think of myself as an Aspie.
Lol then what are ya doin here?
Just kidding, I know there are some NTs here.


We are here to discuss infinity and our experience as earth's consciousness.

Why do you think he is NT?



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07 Oct 2008, 10:11 am

He said he doesnt think hes an aspie?
Unless he was unintentionally confusing us literal types lol



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07 Oct 2008, 10:18 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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but if you had eternal consciousness, then you would see the universe end.
and then, even worse, you would see an infinitely longer time where there is nothing to see.
blackness, and total aloneness forever and ever, and, with nothing to be able to think about is too much of a price for me to pay to see the rest of what is going to happen in the universe.

Maybe I would fall into a wormhole and become part of dimension number 11, I don't know. I don't know if I would be in total darkness and aloneness forever and ever. I would be willing to take that chance though just to discover what's out there.

there would be "nothing" out there after it's gone, and since you are only a consciousness, you have not matter and therefore can not influence or propagate anything at all.

you can only witness blackness forever.

but maybe the universe does exist on the 10th or more dimensions.

i can vaguely identify 9 dimensions (3 triplet phases (spatial, energy and consciousness))

if it is all only within 9, then there is emptiness in the future.

because i am autistic, i can not see things on higher levels like you.

to me, it is not hope, but logical dissemination that forms my expectations.

i am stunted i know but there one goes huh?

i will be glad to die when i am tired of life and that is not yet but it will be sometime.



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07 Oct 2008, 10:21 am

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I have AS so I guess I could be called 'autistic' too?



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07 Oct 2008, 10:32 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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Could require intense adaptation but I have done this before...intense adaptation, that is.


there is no adaptation possible to equal nothing forever.

i am saying that after it all has ended then you will be stuck alone in an infinite nothingness.
forever and ever.
nothingness with no one but you in it would never end.
my goodness how could you pay that price to see the universe to it's completion?

you are very brave, but no brave man i read about in history would ever risk that price of soul to pay.
not even alexander the great or ghengis khan etc.

maybe joan of arc could have risked that possibility of fate. (hers is an amazing story if it is true)
to risk it is completely beyond normal human tolerance for fear i would think.

anyway g'night as it is 2am and a new fractal animation process is complete and now i have no reason to stay awake.

hmmm g'nigh..



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07 Oct 2008, 10:34 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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I have AS so I guess I could be called 'autistic' too?

oh dear it is very late but yes. AS is at the best end of the autistic spectrum.

AS people are autistic.



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07 Oct 2008, 10:39 am

Have pleasant dreams b9:)
Goodnight!



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07 Oct 2008, 10:44 am

the phone rang and i spoke to the phone and told it that i was too tired.
but while i am up, i will say i realized your point is that you are also autistic, (you did not need the explanation i gave and i am naive and did not notice then) and that my claim to autistic misunderstanding was not fair.

but i was trying to say that i think i am quite more affected than most here as i have seen, and even though they are also autistic, they are less affected than i am.
i am a strange concoction of reasonable thoughts in a bizzarre presentational form.

so i was not saying you are not autistic, but i have to say your concepts are a bit above my capacity to conceive.

so i think you are less autistic than me is all.

i may see i am wrong soon and i will admit i am if i am.

but it is hard to imagine things other people think about in my mind.



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07 Oct 2008, 11:28 am

b9 wrote:
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I'm sorry, b9, but you keep making statements about what the future will/must be.

The only statement I feel is justified is that the future will not be the same as the past. Whatever it does turn out to be, it will be a surprise - especially to me, I hope.


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07 Oct 2008, 11:37 am

Whats this fear of infinity I'm starting to see here? That and the fear that even if immortal, no guarantee that something won't go wrong?
Yeah, 'cause those are proud perspectives (heavy sarcasm)...
Where are the risk takers? Am I the only one with the balls to make the universe my b***h?
There are never guarantees in any new endeavour! At that, why cower at the sheer size and potential limitations of this universe? No sense of challenge? Boo friggin' hoo.
Shite happens. But to not be a part of that shite, is pretty cowardly. But that seems to be the theme of the modern day? I actually heard scientists discussing that the reason - despite technological ability - no mission to mars has been mounted, was the risk. The risk!!
Gods blood, I did hope they were kidding... they weren't. People today are weak with no sense of adventure.


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07 Oct 2008, 1:12 pm

An idea just came back to me, as I was just watching star trek coincidentally =p, with the advancement of quantum computers we will be able to use quantum teleportation for bigger things than photon particles and molecules etc that we presently can with classic super computers, in fact we will be able to teleport full human beings. So here is the plan. When you at are an age you enjoy, the computer will scan you in, however the original you will be destroyed in the process, your atomic information will be stored in the computer. When the new you is produced in the output, you will be the same you except a different copy. Then you will grow to an old age and die, however the young version of you still exists in the computer so you can be retrieved from the output again and again for as long as you want. Technically you could live forever that way, but I wouldnt want to :P Ishmael what is your opinion on this?
This process could also be used just to preserve someone for whatever reason. Or perhaps even make many copies of yourself :twisted:



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07 Oct 2008, 1:30 pm

You wouldn't live forever by that method. At best, "you" could live several times from the same starting point, but none of the things you learned in one life could be used by the latest copy. It's not life extension; it's mass replication.



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07 Oct 2008, 1:56 pm

Technically you could. With quantum computers you will also be able to store your conscious mind, and be implanted again (even the memories can be isolated and implanted). Already this can be done, but with huge amounts of supercomputers, but with quantum computing it would only take one machine.



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07 Oct 2008, 1:57 pm

I wish I could live forever because I never want to stop thinking- so if I never die I can think forever. I mean. There are so many things to think about. I am still stuck on colours. It would be awesome to live forever.



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07 Oct 2008, 1:59 pm

Living forever means that eventually you would run out of things to think about, this may become a problem if you want thinking to be your only purpose :wink:



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07 Oct 2008, 2:00 pm

If I was suspended in the teleportation I wonder if I could stay there for a while, then be reconstructed at a later date?
I would like to take my genome and store it in a quantum computer.