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03 Feb 2006, 2:30 pm

Its certainly hard to envisage an NT human engineering the great pyramid! :)



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03 Feb 2006, 3:50 pm

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1940s? :D waaay off. try 2800 BC!

this is David Ickes theory;

- several thosand years ago a large mass arrived in our solar system with cataclysmic effects. It smashed into one of the larger planets (jupiter? cant remember) creating a large asteroid belt (which i believe is well documented) The remnant settled into solar orbit as the mass we now know as venus.

- suring this cataclysm, mars was in the wrong place at the wrong time & was smashed beyond recognition. All traces of civilized life were eliminated EXCEPT the pyramids in the region of cydonia. (just google it, youll see what i mean) The Earth sufferred some fallout too, which took the effect of giant flooding (goodbye Atlantis!)

- The martians came to earth to survive, they settled in the caucasus (hence the term 'caucasian') mountains to escape the giant flooding occurring everywhere (as mentioned in the old testament - Noahs ark etc). These Martians were the original caucasian or 'aryan' race.

Other points he makes include the Nazca lines in Peru and the fact that if you put a white person into sensory deprivation their bodily rhythm matches the orbit of mars, rather than the orbit of earth (as with non-white people). Also there is a famous mystical site in England called Avebury with neolithic monuments, and the landscape is almost a mirror image of cydonia.

Crucially, many ancient religious texts also start to make sense if you take his theory on board. He says if you read hebrew the old testament and other writings mention 'Gods' as plural rather than singular.

He is best known for his ideas about the mysterious 'annunaki' from ancient Sumerian texts. He believes they were reptilian creatures with greatly advanced knoledge.


This sounds like something L. Ron Hubbard would come up with. :roll:



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03 Feb 2006, 3:56 pm

sorry, but i would have to say that is completly rediculous. not possible, first for another species to mate with humans, and plus just the idea sounds too much like a sci fi movie. i believe it is possible there is intelligent life out there, but not here. I personaly never thought i was an alien or on the wrong planet, though when I was little i had a dream I was a cyborg and i got scared.



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03 Feb 2006, 4:07 pm

*Makes foil hats and gives them to all the alien theory believers*

As for white people coming from another planet, the genetic differences between whites and all other groups is no greater or less than that of blacks, Asians, and American and Asian Indians. Furthermore, not all ASD people are white. :roll:



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03 Feb 2006, 4:17 pm

The Old testament of the bible confirms that ailiens did land here and breed with humans. "The sons of god looked down upon the daughters of men and saw that they were fair and begat children with them" Genisis 6:2 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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03 Feb 2006, 4:25 pm

Scrapheap wrote:
The Old testament of the bible confirms that ailiens did land here and breed with humans. "The sons of god looked down upon the daughters of men and saw that they were fair and begat children with them" Genisis 6:2 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

That is quite a creative interperetaton. :roll:



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03 Feb 2006, 5:56 pm

Nazca, ancient astronauts, the space ships of Ezekiel... Go to Von Daniken.
Now there was a tale-teller who didn't let little details of facts get in his way.

Mix in the Bermuda triangle, Atlantis, Stonehenge...

I must admit my favourite take on all of this is David Gemmel's Sipstrassi series, which manages to get in the missing Grumman Avengers and the Titanic as well.

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03 Feb 2006, 6:32 pm

I tend to think earthmoms friend is pulling her leg and just kept on doing it because earthmom sounded unsure. Or interested.


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03 Feb 2006, 7:29 pm

Emettman wrote:
earthmom wrote:
- my leg being pulled or at least my friend being off on a non-existent path.


You could get your own back. Bone up on Panspermia, and feed the theory back to him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia

It's quite possible that we are all of Martian origin!


I agree, but if you really want to bone up on panspermia, this is the place to go http://www.panspermia.org/



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03 Feb 2006, 8:17 pm

Scrapheap wrote:
The Old testament of the bible confirms that ailiens did land here and breed with humans. "The sons of god looked down upon the daughters of men and saw that they were fair and begat children with them" Genisis 6:2 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


I still think they bio-engineered or selectively bred homo-sapiens from primates. 'God(s) made man in his(their) own image'



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03 Feb 2006, 8:20 pm

Sean wrote:
Scrapheap wrote:
The Old testament of the bible confirms that ailiens did land here and breed with humans. "The sons of god looked down upon the daughters of men and saw that they were fair and begat children with them" Genisis 6:2 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

That is quite a creative interperetaton. :roll:


ok, lets see you offer a sensible interpetation :D



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04 Feb 2006, 12:06 am

psych wrote:
Sean wrote:
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The Old testament of the bible confirms that ailiens did land here and breed with humans. "The sons of god looked down upon the daughters of men and saw that they were fair and begat children with them" Genisis 6:2 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

That is quite a creative interperetaton. :roll:


ok, lets see you offer a sensible interpetation :D

First, no traditional Rabbi, Scribe, or Pharisee, or modern-day Hebrew scholar ever claimed that Moses was refering to anything other than a single entity despite using the plural "Elohim". This is now considered to be the first hint to reference to the trinity in the Old Testament. Moses is an etremely credible cource for this because he was the only one to converse with God in a conversational manner. The burning bush had nothing to do with UFOs or aliens because the doctrine that Moses was given is a polar opposite of what the new age lunatic fringe claims to receive from "aliens".

The "watchers" (aka sons of God) are now known as guardin angels. They fell after the devil was cast down. They slept with women and the women gave birth to giants who were evil, perverse, and probably briliant. The alien theory has no credibility among Rabbis or Hebrew scholars from any age.



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04 Feb 2006, 12:50 am

The alien as an archetype:

1. Alienation, as to feel to be an alien and or to be alienated.

2. Hidden but clearly unknown and or mystery, not of this earth.

3. Introversion, hermit and the alike personality typologies.

4. Beings from outer space delusions, associated upon possibilities and conspiracy theory.

Other then that it's entirely sexual. Fetishism subconsciously manifests in schizophrenic ideal. No I'm not saying that participants of this topic are this, it's just that some medical papers I read online including a .mil site explain this stuff very verbally. Then I could not find the article again. Like one on neuropsych and perceptions concerning computer use, it was highly abstract but I cannot find it.

To me sociologically outer space persons are based upon the societal sub-conscious propagandisms of conspiracy theories. As well as the infixed idea of such matters via influence of science fiction on T.V, movies and books, nothing wrong with imagination. No where should have ideas been thought of through possibilities as facts without clear and improvable fact.
Possibilities concerning ufology (not to grant it any prestige) are consider to me likely of the following:

1. Of the delusional or the unstable mind.

2. Of profit or gain, as if utilized in presentation but known to be false.

3. In possibility, secret things such as God and its associated religion, political and capable of manipulations intentionally or not.

A. When there is unknown there is fear, conspiracy theorist commonly do not trust the government. Feel that the government might know things it does not tell others and is for instance aliens themselves or controlled by aliens, perhaps even in communications with them.

B. The sociopathological divide exists either for a purpose or not, intentionally or not by marketing’s of the delusional. It is as if the government knows about aliens but will not tell others, a cult like belief that is purely pathological and not based upon fact. Subliminal anti-governmental hoopla.



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04 Feb 2006, 2:20 am

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It is very difficult to mate two species together...


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I agree, and this is where David Icke loses me...


Yeah, who'd want to mate with David Icke!



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04 Feb 2006, 5:48 am

I heard of that guy when I was studying such nonsense.



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04 Feb 2006, 8:41 am

IgorStop wrote:
if you really want to bone up on panspermia, this is the place to go http://www.panspermia.org/


That gets a reference on the Wikipedia site, and really runs with the idea to its full distance. Whether I'd follow it that far, that's more debatable.
Exogenesis (now there's a nice word) seems quite reasonable. But life before stars?