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skonamis
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10 Jan 2010, 6:36 pm

I swing between high and low self esteem. I have some things where i am good at so i get high self esteem. Other times it is quite low.
I lack in confidence.
I barely talk if there are strangers or people i don't like or know very well around me. I have only 3 or 4 people that i can freely talk to when around, and with them i sometimes even talk too much. I have naturally a very quiet voice.
I was a bit violent as a child, but as i became a teenager i went extremely passive. In recent years i have had 1 extreme violence outburst. I was very depressed. Something in my brain clicked and suddenly i was extremely violent. I physically attacked somebody. But the person i was attacking managed to calm me down.
I am neutral or negative. With friends or trusty people i can be positive.
I do not trust people easily.
Also i am a closed book with strangers and with people i don't like. I am only open with people i know very well, my 2 friends and a younger sister. Sometimes i make an exception when i have to trust somebody.
I am a cynical person.



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10 Jan 2010, 6:37 pm

Hyper and depressive for me, although I think that may be a bit of bipolar.


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10 Jan 2010, 6:59 pm

Good point. There are extremes for Aspies that I never thought of before. I'm not sure which I fall into I have some of those issues though there's no doubt about that LOL! :-)



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10 Jan 2010, 7:09 pm

I am extreme in everything. No mid range.



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10 Jan 2010, 7:24 pm

rosiemaphone wrote:
I know quite a lot of people with Aspergers and have noticed that, while they are all different, they tend to veer towards one extreme or another in their personalities. These are the ones I've noticed.

Very high self-esteem or very low self esteem
Over-confident or lacking in confidence
Extremely passive or extremely aggressive
Talking too much or barely talking at all
Very positive or extremely negative
Over-trusting or not trusting people enough
Extremely open (e.g telling things they may not want to know) or very, very private.
Very naive/gullible or very cynical

These are just some observations, no idea if they're right or not.


I USUALLY have good self esteem.
I AM confident on things I know, or things in a pattern I know I know or can know.
I talk little BUT, on my interest, etc... I can talk a lot
I USED to be VERY positive,. NOW, in general, I am VERY negative!
I used to be too trusting, and now have NO trust for people. That is yet another reason I never married.
I tend to be too open.
I am now VERY cynical!

Frankly, I would think most people with AS of reasonable experience, are probably like I am there.



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10 Jan 2010, 7:47 pm

It's the inability to judge appropriateness. If someone can gauge, by other people's reactions, the appropriateness of what they say/do, then they're more likely to be able to find a balance. If you can't do that, it's hard not to be an extreme. If you can't see in someone's face if they're being honest or not, how could you have a "normal" level of cynicism? Or if you can't tell if people are interested in what you say, how can you talk a "normal" amount? Not being extreme in interactions requires being able to read people.



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10 Jan 2010, 7:56 pm

Maggiedoll wrote:
It's the inability to judge appropriateness. If someone can gauge, by other people's reactions, the appropriateness of what they say/do, then they're more likely to be able to find a balance. If you can't do that, it's hard not to be an extreme. If you can't see in someone's face if they're being honest or not, how could you have a "normal" level of cynicism? Or if you can't tell if people are interested in what you say, how can you talk a "normal" amount? Not being extreme in interactions requires being able to read people.


Do you think things are missed because of discomfort with eye contact and looking directly at someone?


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10 Jan 2010, 9:43 pm

Aimless wrote:
Maggiedoll wrote:
It's the inability to judge appropriateness. If someone can gauge, by other people's reactions, the appropriateness of what they say/do, then they're more likely to be able to find a balance. If you can't do that, it's hard not to be an extreme. If you can't see in someone's face if they're being honest or not, how could you have a "normal" level of cynicism? Or if you can't tell if people are interested in what you say, how can you talk a "normal" amount? Not being extreme in interactions requires being able to read people.


Do you think things are missed because of discomfort with eye contact and looking directly at someone?

:? I don't know. Eye contact can increase misunderstanding for me, because a lot of times people take the eye contact itself to mean things, either that I'm saying something by meeting their eyes or that I'm understanding what they're saying to me with their eyes. I think sometimes if something goes over my head, if I looked at the person's eyes, they'll be more sure that I deliberately ignored whatever they said.
I guess it's the same as how when aspies do make eye contact (or fake eye contact,) it's too much.



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10 Jan 2010, 10:22 pm

I've always been known to go to extremes with everything. Sometimes i even alternate between two opposite extremes, depending on a situation. But i can hardly ever find a happy medium in any aspect of life.



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11 Jan 2010, 3:20 am

rosiemaphone wrote:
I know quite a lot of people with Aspergers and have noticed that, while they are all different, they tend to veer towards one extreme or another in their personalities. These are the ones I've noticed.
...

These are just some observations, no idea if they're right or not.


I agree with you. We tend to be extreme, also inside oneself life.

By now I'm:


Very high self-esteem
Over-confident
Extremely passive or extremely aggressive (depend on situation but never between)
Talking too much or barely talking at all (depend on situation but never between)
Very positive
not trusting people enough
Extremely open
very cynical


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11 Jan 2010, 10:12 am

The thing I want to point out that I'm not sure if I properly expressed in what I said before, is that those extremes are pretty arbitrary. They don't necessarily mean actually being extreme so much as they mean being enough that way that others observe it. What's considered "very positive" or "very open" varies by situation and by view of the observer, there's really not a logical or consistent mid-range, you can't select a moderate way to be and then stick to it, because that "moderate" point floats. I'm not saying that aspies can't actually be extreme, but some of that may come from having given up on getting "moderate" right as well as from true extremeness. A lot of people here have scripted responses and behaviors meant to seem more "normal." But what's scripted to be moderate will end up seeming extreme to some people in some situations. (Um, please forgive me if I did say that clearly in my previous post.. :oops: I always want to re-word things to make them maybe clearer.)



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11 Jan 2010, 7:14 pm

I vary between extremes in a lot of ways. I'm usually either emotionally detached, or so heightened and hyperactive I can't deal with it.


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11 Jan 2010, 9:07 pm

rosiemaphone wrote:
I know quite a lot of people with Aspergers and have noticed that, while they are all different, they tend to veer towards one extreme or another in their personalities. These are the ones I've noticed.

Very high self-esteem or very low self esteem
Over-confident or lacking in confidence
Extremely passive or extremely aggressive
Talking too much or barely talking at all
Very positive or extremely negative
Over-trusting or not trusting people enough
Extremely open (e.g telling things they may not want to know) or very, very private.
Very naive/gullible or very cynical

These are just some observations, no idea if they're right or not.


I would be

high self esteem
I don't really think I'm over or under confident
I'm extremely aggressive
I talk too much
I'm extrememly negative (but I'm working on that one)
I'm over trusting
extremely open
very gullible



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11 Jan 2010, 9:07 pm

mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I vary between extremes in a lot of ways. I'm usually either emotionally detached, or so heightened and hyperactive I can't deal with it.


I can relate to your description there.



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11 Jan 2010, 10:13 pm

Quote:
Very high self-esteem or very low self esteem
Over-confident or lacking in confidence
Extremely passive or extremely aggressive
Talking too much or barely talking at all
Very positive or extremely negative
Over-trusting or not trusting people enough
Extremely open (e.g telling things they may not want to know) or very, very private.
Very naive/gullible or very cynical


Very high self-esteem
The right amount of confidence
Extremely passive
Talking too much with my friends/barely talking at all around my family
Very positive
Over trusting
Very naive


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11 Jan 2010, 10:52 pm

rosiemaphone wrote:
I know quite a lot of people with Aspergers and have noticed that, while they are all different, they tend to veer towards one extreme or another in their personalities. These are the ones I've noticed.

Very high self-esteem or very low self esteem
Over-confident or lacking in confidence
Extremely passive or extremely aggressive
Talking too much or barely talking at all
Very positive or extremely negative
Over-trusting or not trusting people enough
Extremely open (e.g telling things they may not want to know) or very, very private.
Very naive/gullible or very cynical

These are just some observations, no idea if they're right or not.

I have self esteem, it's not high or low.
I'm confident.
I'm passive aggressive. Usually passive.
I know when to shut up and I prefer to say as little as possible.
Very positive.
Used to be over trusting, now I suspect everyone.
I'm open, but not about all things.
A bit cynical.

I used to be gullible and over-trusting but I've learned to be a bit apprehensive. Certain experiences in life have made me become this way.
I think I'm somewhere in the middle.


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