what is the ultimate asperger's diagnostic question?

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08 Mar 2010, 2:45 am

patient: "That's a really stupid question. WTH are you talking about? You said it makes no difference... I mean duh! What kind of question is that?! What the hell am I paying you for?! Are you going ask me next if 1 plus 1 is 2, and 1 is equal to 2, then is 1 plus 1 equal to "avocado"? You're insane. You probably ate your dog for breakfast this morning! How many patients are buried in the basement? 2? Oh I'm sorry, I mean "avocado." OMG let me out of here!!1!"

psydoc: "You got it right."

patient: "Oh ok. Nevermind."

- - - - - - - - - -

When I was younger (and even now, somewhat) I tend to respond badly to nonsensical questions, or illogical instructions.

Did your sister mention getting any clue about what kind of answer the psych was looking for?



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08 Mar 2010, 2:50 am

Blindspot149 wrote:
Please answer the following rhetorical question...................


this lol ^


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08 Mar 2010, 4:48 am

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2. "Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more..."

:D

RNG: I might watch it, if it was a spinning thing. I don't get hung up on spinning things, but I do kinda like watching them. Also, being me, I'd want to know how it worked, and why it bothered spinning if the spinning didn't do anything. And why would I want to run an RNG to produce a particular number, anyway? (I suppose I could be wanting to check that the random machine really was capable of producing that number.)

My question: "Have you always been this way?"


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08 Mar 2010, 5:06 am

How many friends do you have?

How many friends did you have in your childhood?

How old were you when you recognized other people had feelings?

How did you react to your parents death?

How do you play with your toys?

Have you ever been to a birthday party?

Have you ever been in a relationship?

Do you have a job?

Have you ever worked?

How good are you at math?

Do you like science fiction?

Do you take things apart?



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08 Mar 2010, 9:53 am

League_Girl wrote:
How many friends do you have?

How many friends did you have in your childhood?

How old were you when you recognized other people had feelings?

How did you react to your parents death?

How do you play with your toys?

Have you ever been to a birthday party?

Have you ever been in a relationship?

Do you have a job?

Have you ever worked?

How good are you at math?

Do you like science fiction?

Do you take things apart?


This shows the limitation of trying to discern Asperger's from such a small list of questions.

1. Plenty
2. Plenty
3. I don't remember ever not recognizing that.
4. I am extremely glad I can't answer this question. I did cry when Walter Cronkite died (reading a tribute, it was beautiful), and I'll probably cry if Ronnie James Dio can't beat his cancer. I also cried when we had to put our dogs down, so I imagine I would have the typical reaction.
5. I pretended with them.
6. Lots, and I enjoy them (once in 5th grade I was the only boy at one, I would kill to have that now :P).
7. I have had four girlfriends, and I am on good terms with all of them.
8. I have a job.
9. I've worked as a petsitter, babysitter, waiter, and bartender.
10. Extremely, I can do linear algebra (Calc II) when I'm drunk and do it perfectly. Probably more advanced math than that, but I didn't have the opportunity to test. :P
11. Yeah, I like it all right.
12. Nope, because I have a slight tremor in my hands and it's hard to get small objects back in the right place.

From that list, I am indistinguishable from an NT. The only thing that stands out is my skill in math, and that is by no means an Aspie-specific trait.

Incidentally, the focus on the social aspects of Asperger's delayed my diagnosis by at least 8, and possibly 11, years.


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08 Mar 2010, 5:48 pm

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This isn't really the 'ultimate question' but I thought some of you guys might find it amusing!

My sister went in for re-assessment of her abilites not long ago and her doctor asked her a question which supposed to be a good way to determine if someone is an Aspie or not (not only because of their answer, but because of general reaction to the question).

The question was:

"You have a random number generator, while choosing the number the moving parts of the machine spin, but stop once the machine has chosen a number. If you want to, you can choose to stop the random number generator spinning early manually, but the number resulting from an early stoppage would still be random. Now say you are wanting the generator to produce a specific number, do you stop is spinning or do you let it run it's course?"

What the hell......?

8O


I would SO let it run just so I could check out the spinning parts of the machine!! !! I love stuff that spins.


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16 Jun 2011, 7:41 pm

I would look at the spinning wheels and blink to stop the numbers.



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16 Jun 2011, 11:17 pm

1) Do you notice if the person sitting behind you is eating potato chips?

2) Do you answer the telephone/doorbell when it rings?

2) Do you enjoy social gatherings?

3) Does it bother you that the number 2 was written twice?

If the person starts to stim while reading this list of questions, he or she might be an Aspie :wink:



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16 Jun 2011, 11:37 pm

KoS wrote:
This isn't really the 'ultimate question' but I thought some of you guys might find it amusing!

My sister went in for re-assessment of her abilites not long ago and her doctor asked her a question which supposed to be a good way to determine if someone is an Aspie or not (not only because of their answer, but because of general reaction to the question).

The question was:

"You have a random number generator, while choosing the number the moving parts of the machine spin, but stop once the machine has chosen a number. If you want to, you can choose to stop the random number generator spinning early manually, but the number resulting from an early stoppage would still be random. Now say you are wanting the generator to produce a specific number, do you stop is spinning or do you let it run it's course?"

What the hell......?

8O


I would stop it - the question is pointless actually because if stopping it gives the same result then what's the point of even asking?? I find myself wondering if there is a minimum amout of time it needs to spin - or can you just start and then straight away stop it - I guess that must be how it can be done otherwise there would have been a specification.


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17 Jun 2011, 12:09 am

KoS wrote:
"You have a random number generator, while choosing the number the moving parts of the machine spin, but stop once the machine has chosen a number. If you want to, you can choose to stop the random number generator spinning early manually, but the number resulting from an early stoppage would still be random. Now say you are wanting the generator to produce a specific number, do you stop is spinning or do you let it run it's course?"


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17 Jun 2011, 12:11 am

1) If your car broke down and you were stranded on a remote highway, with a cell phone, would you call a friend, or a tow truck?
a) friend
b) tow truck

2) Your internet is gone, caput, over. What do you do?
a) call your service provider and ream them out
b) play video games or read until someone comes to fix it or
c) say 'screw it' and go outside to engage in social activities

3) Weeks, months or even years can go by without you getting:
a) a bucket of KFC
b) a romantic evening with you signifigant other
c) and invitation to a "fun night out with the girls/bros"

4) When was the last time you felt that no one understood you?
a) when Mom and Dad refused to accept my girlfriend because she had a piercing .
b) when I had to tell my family I was divorcing my wife
c) understand me, no one has ever understood me.

Legend

1) b =aspie
2) a & b = aspie
3) c= aspie (though possibly a)
4) c =aspie

*just some fun, don`t get twisted! haha*
4)


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17 Jun 2011, 12:12 am

"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?"



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17 Jun 2011, 1:09 am

There are none-
the traits of Autism are many,
some Autists having only a few, those affecting them heavily, or many, affecting their lives only slightly, or anything in between,
the traits were developed studying only one sex,
an adult in my practice might have developed some pretty amazing means of "masking" her or his natural tendencies,
and,
oh yeah,
someone who is consciously-seeking an Autistic Dx,
or who is undergoing this test because they know I suspect it,
will give answers DIFFERENT than they would otherwise.

I would invite a patient to speak in a freely-associative fashion for a length of time, giving very limited feedback as I observed tentatively.

I'm not a fan of Freud (the opposite, actually). I wouldn't be interested in the CONTENT of the person's speech as indicative of a vast unconsciousness where his or her real issues lie-
it would be the holistic combination of their speech rhythms, physical mannerisms, eye contact or lack thereof, facial expressions or lack thereof, content- subject, content- vocabulary, tone, pitch, etc.
I would likely require more than one session with them of this type, but that would be the best means I could think of to conduct a "test" in the setting of my practice.


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17 Jun 2011, 1:34 am

DarrylZero wrote:
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?"


African or European?


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17 Jun 2011, 3:16 am

Vivienne wrote:
1) If your car broke down and you were stranded on a remote highway, with a cell phone, would you call a friend, or a tow truck?
a) friend
b) tow truck

2) Your internet is gone, caput, over. What do you do?
a) call your service provider and ream them out
b) play video games or read until someone comes to fix it or
c) say 'screw it' and go outside to engage in social activities

3) Weeks, months or even years can go by without you getting:
a) a bucket of KFC
b) a romantic evening with you signifigant other
c) and invitation to a "fun night out with the girls/bros"

4) When was the last time you felt that no one understood you?
a) when Mom and Dad refused to accept my girlfriend because she had a piercing .
b) when I had to tell my family I was divorcing my wife
c) understand me, no one has ever understood me.

Legend

1) b =aspie
2) a & b = aspie
3) c= aspie (though possibly a)
4) c =aspie

*just some fun, don`t get twisted! haha*
4)


a
b
b/c
c

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Hi, how are you?

Is everything all right?


QFT



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17 Jun 2011, 9:15 am

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I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
-Terry Pratchett



Love that.


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