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25 Mar 2010, 12:36 pm

I had severe receptive language delays so at that age I was learning to put echolalia together in patterns that were similar to what others used but I had almost no comprehension or even awareness of what language was.


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25 Mar 2010, 1:04 pm

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, no infill- you as well - thought so- we really are in The Matrix :D

Seriously though do NT's have huge recall of everything from eighteen months upwards?


I keep seeing the acronym "NT" what does it stand for and what does it mean?



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25 Mar 2010, 1:06 pm

anbuend wrote:
I had severe receptive language delays so at that age I was learning to put echolalia together in patterns that were similar to what others used but I had almost no comprehension or even awareness of what language was.


when did you become aware of the significance of language and how did you begin talking? Was echolalia a way of saying "i don't know"?



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25 Mar 2010, 1:12 pm

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I remember through family videos i pronounced;

Yellow = Yewoow
Red = Ret
Green = Grun

I always had fights with my older sister, I threw the cat against the furnace, painted my aunt's stairs with tar, and picked cherries off our garage roof with my sister.

I remember more but I want to do a short entry.


you pronounciation sounds very much like my sons'. when did your phonics improve, and how?



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25 Mar 2010, 1:15 pm

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Jenvi, I respect you a lot for what you are doing now!
So great to see you help your son!

I sure hope someone in here can give a good answer.


thank you very much special, i just want to see my son improve. although i am very patient and assured he will be fine, i am just ever excited for the day that him and i can exchange a conversation.



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25 Mar 2010, 1:19 pm

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Wish my parents knew about the Gluten/Casein free diet or alternatively DPP IV enzymes (SerenAid).
And the Autism/Mercury connection.

The earlier you intervene with these the better off your child will be at an adult age.


i thought about those things, i had my son's blood tested for any sensitivity to gluten/casein, fruits, sesame seeds, dust, insects, etc, and they all came back negative.

as far as the mercury testing, i am doing research to where i can get him tested for that. my insurance is very restricting.

serenaid; i have heard cases where kids regressed from that. everyone is indeed different and we usually only hear cases of it working and not the other way around. so we must be careful of what we obtain on the internet because we cannot determine the numbers of how many people tried it vs how many improved.



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25 Mar 2010, 1:23 pm

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From what my mother tells me, I did have a slight speech delay, but i did know what other people were saying and therefore knew what they were asking for. As far as remembering when i started speaking, I was maybe 3-4 years old (educated guess). Granted, this was back in the 80s and HFA/AS wasnt heard of until 1994-5, however, i think my mother's mother (who was a teacher) suspected something since i showed similar tendencies to an uncle (whom we are sure had it, even though he never got diagnosed). As far as discipline goes, not sure what to recommend . . . with sensory issues, i demonized my father since he was raised with the paddle, but I dont know what he would have done if I was dxed. All I can say is your son is going to see the world through (likely) quantifiable fact as opposed to emotional (meaning that getting mad at him will likely result in him being confused, and yelling could result in meltdown). So, with rules, you have to explain it and why (example, "Dont touch the stove because it may be hot and burn you.").


thank you for your generous input! your contention of my son likely seeing things in a quantifiable way makes a lot of sense. i have to add that when i do get angry and yell at him, he always laughs and smiles at me, as if he enjoys it. im not sure how to react.



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25 Mar 2010, 1:24 pm

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My Mom said I was almost non verbal at age 6 and everyone was wishing
I would start talking. After i started she says everyone was wishing I shut
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Eddie


what made you begin to speak?



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25 Mar 2010, 1:51 pm

Jenvi wrote:
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I had severe receptive language delays so at that age I was learning to put echolalia together in patterns that were similar to what others used but I had almost no comprehension or even awareness of what language was.


when did you become aware of the significance of language and how did you begin talking? Was echolalia a way of saying "i don't know"?


I learned about language slowly and inconsistently. Sometimes I would even learn it and forget it. And gradually the meaning just seeped in more and more. Like I would slowly associate groups of words with situations or with other groups of words.

As for echolalia what happened was after I lost speech my parents were instructed to make me say things in order to get things. But all I learned was to repeat sounds. I also learned to associate some sounds with others so I actually learned to say words before I learned the meanings. This is common in hyperlexic children, we learn everything backwards from usual. (I could also associate written words with sounds before I learned the meaning of either one.)

So basically it was a lot of haphazard trial and error and eventually things sort of fell together more or less. The problem was though that by the time I permanently learned how to put words to my thoughts, my learning of speech had set my brain into a mode where speech was only sometimes communicative. And that combined with losing speech to a rare autism-associated movement disorder means I type to communicate because that more consistently means what I am thinking.

I still struggle with comprehension (I spend most of my time in a mental state where language may as well not exist and it takes effort to understand). And if I am tired or stressed I may still lose the ability to use words and/or use words that sound plausible but don't mean what I am thinking. But most of the time I can communicate okay.


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25 Mar 2010, 2:03 pm

NT stands for neurotypical. i.e., people without autism. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just new to this site too.

I've noticed with my son that he will at times keep pushing until we get upset. Then after we do, he calms down. It's almost like he views that as an end to the problem and he can then relax.



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25 Mar 2010, 2:08 pm

Jenvi wrote:
jeffhermy wrote:
I remember through family videos i pronounced;

Yellow = Yewoow
Red = Ret
Green = Grun

I always had fights with my older sister, I threw the cat against the furnace, painted my aunt's stairs with tar, and picked cherries off our garage roof with my sister.

I remember more but I want to do a short entry.


you pronounciation sounds very much like my sons'. when did your phonics improve, and how?

Ear cleaning, Probably not the best approach but that is when my words improved, for me I was extremely allergic to alot of household items, and the doctor said I had alot of wax so they cleaned my ears which I did not enjoy and my words came out better. My ears had to adjust cause it was as if they were turned up all the way up to max volume but since the cleaning happened I was hyper-sensetive to sound.

I don't recommend unless by doctor's examination, I don't know if anyone else had the same solution as I did but it worked for me.



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25 Mar 2010, 2:14 pm

My son also had speech issues. It was brought out when he was in preschool. We hired a speech theropist and it helped immensly. Within a year or so he was speaking better than most other kids.



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25 Mar 2010, 2:31 pm

I remember being able to speak. I just didn't say much, because I didn't want to bore the people around me. Once I said something trivial to someone, I didn't say the same thing to that person, again for a couple of weeks. I was very quiet and laid back. I still am.


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25 Mar 2010, 3:04 pm

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I didn't speak until I was four and maybe even five. I jus repeated everything I heard for a while and when I learned to speak on my own it came out in a monotone. I supposedly sounded like a robot. I didn't stop speaking like a robot until my late teens and I am somewhat resentful of my parents for not letting me continue to talk that way. Why is a monotone voice so wrong?

I needed to understand WHY I was not allowed to do something. "Because I said so" didn't work and only made me more angry. I was also the type of kid who needed to burn my hand on the stove to understand it was hot.



I did the same. I put my finger in the hot stove and go "ow" and mom would tell me she told me it was hot and I would say I wanted to see how hot it is. So even though she told me why to not touch the stove, I wanted to touch it anyway.



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25 Mar 2010, 3:15 pm

Jenvi/Aspidad

You do know that whilst we appreciate you are trying to ask some serious stuff , at the same time we trying to show you our sense of humor that goes with that understanding. I mean, you do know there's layers and layers of humor in most of what is written here, mostly self referential, and that most of us can relate to instantly. It's also about showing you what it is like to be on the outside of that instant formation theory of anothers mind, thing.

No one here, I don't think will ever be deliberately unkind to you, you are raising one of us, and when you get to a certain age , and have raised kids of your own, you really appreciate what other parents are going though.

Bear ( not Bear mind-man at MIT) in mind NT has multiple meanings depending on which context it is used in. One one extreme you have it almost as a term of endearment by people-watching anthropological Aspies on the other you have Aspie Separatists who would Skynet the lot of you. I like anthropology. I like some NTs, so do most of us, you are just a little, (not friking,) weird ,that's all.



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25 Mar 2010, 3:17 pm

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