Is there such a thing as an Aspie girl who is a cheerleader

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02 Aug 2010, 10:07 pm

Perhaps at a special needs school? Or perhaps a very special school with a group of saintly motherly type girls who are very nice to the AS cheerleader. Personaly, I can't see it happening. Cheerleaders would be the type to bully her. Cheerleading types freak me out with their peppy-ness. It's like they are on drugs or some kind of robot.


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03 Aug 2010, 12:16 am

if a girl with Asperger's can be on Top Model or whatever it is, i guess anything's possible.

wondering how she would cope with pep rallies, among other things.


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03 Aug 2010, 11:11 am

Northeastern292 wrote:
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IFirst, am I writing about the impossible? I say if girls can be on boy's varsity football squads, then why can't we have an autistic cheerleader. When I'm done with the book, I'll release certain chapters for you guys to write.


For many Aspies, the ability to act or perform in front of an audience is an integral part of their life and something they can actually do very well. As a youngster, while I was horrid in one-on-one and small groups, I could always get in front of a thousand people and give a speech, or disappear into a character.

Imagine an athletic young girl with Asperger's who perhaps had gymnastics, and wants to show her abilities. As a cheerleader, she can devote her energies to memorizing routines, chants, motions and channel her athletic talent in a venue that is TOTALLY within her control. Cheers do not change based on people's reactions. They have clearly defined structure. Cheerleads are apart from the crowd and while they may hear comments, they perform as individuals on a team distinct from the social milieu of the stands. Cheerleading also has some commonly identifiable scripts for interacting, such as smiling, waving, touching, clapping etc. If this were a girl without significant sensory issues (such as touch or noise), she might thrive in such an environment.

She might never party with the other girls, engage with football or basketball players, or even joke around at practice, but she could be a valuable member of a team, and demonstrate her worth with others in a controlled environment.

It sounds like an interesting case study


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03 Aug 2010, 1:37 pm

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Have you actually been around cheerleaders? Don't they pick their own members? I can't see it happening without an obsession with cheer-leading, which would probably seem still odd to the other members and thus ostracized.


I don't know anything about cheerleading, not sure we have it in the UK, but she probably couldn't be a dyspraxic aspie girl - too awkward.

When I see references to toe-walking, it makes me wonder. Before autism was being diagnosed so early and so widely, I would guess a common response to toe-walking would have been "Ooh she's a natural ballerina, we must send her to ballet classes."

My point is that there must be some autistic girls who are graceful and encouraged into activities such as dance or gym, so an obsession to be a cheerleader could arise. A love of performing, and the confidence that goes with it, as part of an interest isn't inconsistent with being socially shy. Interests often bring oblivion to other people's opinion anyway.

I once choreographed a dance routine for a school show, which got dumped on me because I'd inadvertently made the favourite suggestion (I liked the song). I got so into it that I became a bossy little madam, ordering all the others around and critiscising every mistake, because my interest in the process turned me into a perfectionist. But I still couldn't have a conversation with any of the girls in my 'troupe'.



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03 Aug 2010, 2:35 pm

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Make a sex scene please.


Yeah, I'm leaving that for another book. The sex scene in this one she doesn't sleep with the guy in the end because he's so drunk. Alexa (that's her name) is so hurt that she takes the subway at three in the morning (and we're talking New York City here) to her grandmother's.


Have you read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time? If not, PM me and I can give you an excerpt of it which might give you inspiration for that scene.


I have, and I think I do recall the excerpt. However, I read it a while back, so I'm going to have to go over it again.



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03 Aug 2010, 2:36 pm

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Ohhhh. I was one! Pick me! Pick me!
Except we weren't called "cheerleaders". My school system bucked that word due to the negative connotations that the modern media associated it with. We were a "dance squad". I didn't associate much with the other girls, they didn't have anything against me, they just knew I was "different" and needed my space. It wasn't even that I liked performing in front of people, rather that when I was dancing I was in my own little world and nobody could screw with that.
I just finished my second year of university. If you need said female/correct age range/experience feel free to PM me and I can give you my e-mail (My blackberry is pretty much surgically attached to me, so I'll be around to answer at all sorts of times.)


That would be a big help, thanks!



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03 Aug 2010, 11:27 pm

I'm also writing a book now about an Aspie girl! :D

Well, when I was in school I absolutely ABHORRED the cheerleaders and I wouldn't be caught dead in their presence. I don't really know how accurate it would be for an AS girl to wanna be a cheerleader...



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04 Aug 2010, 4:12 am

My half-sister was a cheerleader in high school. She doesn't have Asperger's, though, at least as far as I know. :roll:



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04 Aug 2010, 7:12 am

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I'm also writing a book now about an Aspie girl! :D

Well, when I was in school I absolutely ABHORRED the cheerleaders and I wouldn't be caught dead in their presence. I don't really know how accurate it would be for an AS girl to wanna be a cheerleader...


In my book, it is that a peer mentor who is a cheerleader who gives her the idea.



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04 Aug 2010, 7:30 am

Descartes wrote:
My half-sister was a cheerleader in high school.

That's funny, because my sister was half a cheerleader in high school. :lol:



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04 Aug 2010, 7:47 am

I was a cheerleader in 5th grade. I don't want to be anymore; it's not the type of person I am.



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04 Aug 2010, 8:09 am

PunkyKat wrote:
Perhaps at a special needs school? Or perhaps a very special school with a group of saintly motherly type girls who are very nice to the AS cheerleader. Personaly, I can't see it happening. Cheerleaders would be the type to bully her. Cheerleading types freak me out with their peppy-ness. It's like they are on drugs or some kind of robot.


In my book, she's a special ed student at a normal high school in mainstream classes. Only support she gets is a resource room.

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I'm also writing a book now about an Aspie girl! Very Happy

Well, when I was in school I absolutely ABHORRED the cheerleaders and I wouldn't be caught dead in their presence. I don't really know how accurate it would be for an AS girl to wanna be a cheerleader...


I found some of the cheerleaders annoying, but I'm quite good friends with one from high school.



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04 Aug 2010, 9:02 am

Northeastern292 wrote:
Hey guys!

I'm writing a book about an autistic cheerleader (okay, she has Asperger's, but nonetheless). This part of the book details her first two years of college. Despite my own AS, if I had been born a girl, I surely would have tried out for my high school's cheerleading squad.

First, am I writing about the impossible? I say if girls can be on boy's varsity football squads, then why can't we have an autistic cheerleader. When I'm done with the book, I'll release certain chapters for you guys to write.

Second, I want to know more in depth how autism affects girls. I'm not writing about myself here.


I was in my mid high's pep squad for a short time in seventh grade, but it just wasn't weird enough for me.



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04 Aug 2010, 10:09 am

I'm sure that it's possible. I really need to know how severely Autistic the girl is to know how likely it would actually be.

What made you decide to write a book about an Autistic girl?


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04 Aug 2010, 10:21 am

Autistic cheerleaders probably exist. I think they'd be highly likely to treat it as a performance sport rather than as a social position; cheerleading can be highly demanding, similar to gymnastics, and I definitely think that someone who was autistic (but almost certainly not dyspraxic) could get interested in cheerleading. There are after all autistics involved in most sports.


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04 Aug 2010, 5:05 pm

I was a classical ballet dancer for 10 years. Does that help?

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