NT Women Speak...

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The thing that also bugs me, is that NT males are starting to use that annoying Up-turn, as well. My Eyes tell me that I'm living in Canada, but my Ears tell me that I'm living in Holywood. I wonder how I manage to live through such confusion. It's even worse when my own Parents do it, with me.

I find it very annoying when women who are younger than myself call me, "honey" or "hun". It's not the same as being called "luv" the way the British do. In England only people who are older than you can use the phrase "luv" and it is a genuine term of goodwill. In Canada it is often the younger women who call everyone "honey" or "hun" and it is used as some sort of intrusive gesture to signify dominance of others by the young woman who is using the term.

Another common thing that NT females do is to speak softly with a slight gravel in their throats. This softness combined with a bit of roughness in the throat is meant to convey a feminine yet been-around-enough-to-know-what-I'm-talking-about stance. It irritates me no end because usually the women who speak like this are trying to convey that they have been around the block enough to know it all, but in reality are the kind of twits who think a fun time is participating in such things as wet T-Shirt contests at the local bar.

All of these complaints are sexist though. Women's voices have always come under criticism for one thing or another. We get silenced enough without adding our own words to the abuse. I read that in the middle ages it was illegal for women to nag. Men who allowed their wives to nag were also punished. Women accused of nagging had to wear a horrible torture device called a Scold's Bridle.

This really annoys me to f**k, how false are these women? They don't actually mean what they say or how they show it, its all BS! False with a capital F. And I always know when its happening too, its all crap.

I agree Fiz, women who act like that seem phony to me, too.

I have fifteen female NT friends and I talk to most of them regularly, most of my closest friends are NT females.

Because women feel the need to be fake with eachother, and generally act a certain way because they think it's expected of them... I think this is how many of them basically get through life.

That really bothers me. It only proves to me that they are fake. The Up-Turns are also what I interpret as a sign of Fakeness. I think that Grammar started to deteriorate in the Late 1960s, during the Hippie Days, and than the 1982 movie "Valley Girl", with Frank Zappa and his daughter has accelerated the process in "Female Speak" by a multiplication of twenty times.

But surely they're annoyed by it too? I don't see how you can't be annoyed by it.

Well, ya see, it's like, totally...

Ahem. Sorry *grins*

I have issues with what I call fakespeak - ie completely insincere babble which seems to come autonomously from NT people when they want to make you 'at ease'. I don't mind people trying to be nice or actually being nice, but there is a specific TYPE of nice-ness which is blatantly faked and a touch ott/patronising/whatever. (They say we can't read tones of voice. Blah. It's the NTs who can't do that, IMO - I can read them just fine!)

However, it isn't all of NTs who do this. My sister - who is NT, and more bluntspoken than I am most of the time - often has a rant about the 'in crowd' and the fake talking they do - so sweet and OTT and condescending in person, so bitchy and two faced behind people's backs. They all b***h about their friends in that conspiratorial "I'm telling you this in absolute confidence" way, and they ALL do it to ALL their friends...it's like an insincerity plague :S

I admit many high pitched girls together can be maddening/deafening..but many high pitched girls of the in crowd variety together should be outlawed. They dont even understand or believe their own random outpourings - how the heck are we meant to?

On the last note- about women being fake with one another...It genuinely is a female survival instinct, to try and blend into the background. I know that I've always absorbed bits and pieces of other people's mannerisms and preferences of topic/vocabulary when at work so I can deal with the public in a friendly, outgoing way. It is a survival mechanism for all women, but some just take it to new levels and completely lose sight of what they really think and feel beneath it all. They're the people with no identity...just regurgitations of other people.

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This reminds me of that episode on Friends where Rachael starts working at the coffee shop and her old friends come in. If you want to hear NT women with the high pitched voice go on for about 5 minutes watch it!! !