Why do I get so angry when I see people ignoring the rules?

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15 Sep 2010, 3:02 pm

I go to a local autism group up in Washington and last night was my last one unfortunately because my hours are being changed again. But I can still go to the events they plan on the weekends.

So I remember going to that group and I said back in May these two boys don't belong there because they are 17. They needed to be 18 to be there. The group founder said it was alright by him for them to be there and I pointed out he said online it was an 18 and up group, when did it become acceptable to let kids in. he just said they were almost 18 and I said November wasn't even close because that's how far their birthdays were. Then he said he still says they're almost 18 and I said he should change it to 17 then than 18 since he is letting in 17 year olds. I also learned they don't follow their own rules and things are more laid back and those rules are nothing. Made me wonder what else we were allowed to break. I suppose I can bring my baby there since we break that 18 and up rule.

That story was brought up again when I told the lady sitting next to me that she was rude for asking this other lady her age. I was told as a child it's rude to as grown ups their age and I was told again as an adult it's still rude so I learned it still applies to adults. This lady sitting next to me was saying how picky aspies are about rules and have to call people out on it when they are broken like I did one time about the ages and now I have done it about the lady asking for her age.



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15 Sep 2010, 3:11 pm

League_Girl wrote:
I go to a local autism group up in Washington and last night was my last one unfortunately because my hours are being changed again. But I can still go to the events they plan on the weekends.

So I remember going to that group and I said back in May these two boys don't belong there because they are 17. They needed to be 18 to be there. The group founder said it was alright by him for them to be there and I pointed out he said online it was an 18 and up group, when did it become acceptable to let kids in. he just said they were almost 18 and I said November wasn't even close because that's how far their birthdays were. Then he said he still says they're almost 18 and I said he should change it to 17 then than 18 since he is letting in 17 year olds. I also learned they don't follow their own rules and things are more laid back and those rules are nothing. Made me wonder what else we were allowed to break. I suppose I can bring my baby there since we break that 18 and up rule.

That story was brought up again when I told the lady sitting next to me that she was rude for asking this other lady her age. I was told as a child it's rude to as grown ups their age and I was told again as an adult it's still rude so I learned it still applies to adults. This lady sitting next to me was saying how picky aspies are about rules and have to call people out on it when they are broken like I did one time about the ages and now I have done it about the lady asking for her age.

yes, i understand that! right here on WP, on the description of the Adult Issues forum, it clearly states:

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This forum has hidden content and can only be viewed by members over 17
(bolding is mine).

but.... if you are 17 years old you can post in there. WP actually allows people aged 17 and over to post, which is not the same thing as over 17. i get seriously stuck on details like that.


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15 Sep 2010, 3:19 pm

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I go to a local autism group up in Washington and last night was my last one unfortunately because my hours are being changed again. But I can still go to the events they plan on the weekends.

So I remember going to that group and I said back in May these two boys don't belong there because they are 17. They needed to be 18 to be there. The group founder said it was alright by him for them to be there and I pointed out he said online it was an 18 and up group, when did it become acceptable to let kids in. he just said they were almost 18 and I said November wasn't even close because that's how far their birthdays were. Then he said he still says they're almost 18 and I said he should change it to 17 then than 18 since he is letting in 17 year olds. I also learned they don't follow their own rules and things are more laid back and those rules are nothing. Made me wonder what else we were allowed to break. I suppose I can bring my baby there since we break that 18 and up rule.

That story was brought up again when I told the lady sitting next to me that she was rude for asking this other lady her age. I was told as a child it's rude to as grown ups their age and I was told again as an adult it's still rude so I learned it still applies to adults. This lady sitting next to me was saying how picky aspies are about rules and have to call people out on it when they are broken like I did one time about the ages and now I have done it about the lady asking for her age.

yes, i understand that! right here on WP, on the description of the Adult Issues forum, it clearly states:

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This forum has hidden content and can only be viewed by members over 17
(bolding is mine).

but.... if you are 17 years old you can post in there. WP actually allows people aged 17 and over to post, which is not the same thing as over 17. i get seriously stuck on details like that.



I'm lost, I think the owner clearly started for the group that it's an 18 and up group. I don't see how the adult autism issues board is relevant to this.



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15 Sep 2010, 3:29 pm

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League_Girl wrote:
I go to a local autism group up in Washington and last night was my last one unfortunately because my hours are being changed again. But I can still go to the events they plan on the weekends.

So I remember going to that group and I said back in May these two boys don't belong there because they are 17. They needed to be 18 to be there. The group founder said it was alright by him for them to be there and I pointed out he said online it was an 18 and up group, when did it become acceptable to let kids in. he just said they were almost 18 and I said November wasn't even close because that's how far their birthdays were. Then he said he still says they're almost 18 and I said he should change it to 17 then than 18 since he is letting in 17 year olds. I also learned they don't follow their own rules and things are more laid back and those rules are nothing. Made me wonder what else we were allowed to break. I suppose I can bring my baby there since we break that 18 and up rule.

That story was brought up again when I told the lady sitting next to me that she was rude for asking this other lady her age. I was told as a child it's rude to as grown ups their age and I was told again as an adult it's still rude so I learned it still applies to adults. This lady sitting next to me was saying how picky aspies are about rules and have to call people out on it when they are broken like I did one time about the ages and now I have done it about the lady asking for her age.

yes, i understand that! right here on WP, on the description of the Adult Issues forum, it clearly states:

Quote:
This forum has hidden content and can only be viewed by members over 17
(bolding is mine).

but.... if you are 17 years old you can post in there. WP actually allows people aged 17 and over to post, which is not the same thing as over 17. i get seriously stuck on details like that.



I'm lost, I think the owner clearly started for the group that it's an 18 and up group. I don't see how the adult autism issues board is relevant to this.
just that i also don't understand if rules are written down one way, then the rule isn't followed. i was using the example of another age-based rule as i have never encountered the exact same rule that you posted about.


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15 Sep 2010, 3:30 pm

I also get batty when I see people breaking such rules. There was one cashier who was haggling with a customer in Wal-Mart when I was waiting to pay for an energy drink, this morning. One that I've ended up, not needing - but that's a different story, all together.


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15 Sep 2010, 4:34 pm

What I hate is when people break rules in front of their kids, because it gives the kids the message that rules don't apply to "us". At school pick-up time, there isn't enough space for all the parents who come in cars to pick up their kids. So, a lot of them will park illegally instead of parking farther away and walking. Their illegally parked cars get in the way of traffic, and create a safety hazard for everyone. I'm always happy to see those people get tickets.

One time we were outside of an IHOP restaurant, and some guy threw some little onto the ground, right in front of his kid. My husband said, "Excuse me, sir. You dropped your wrapper." I thought that was great. My husband knew the guy hadn't accidentally dropped it, but he wanted the guy to pick it up. It was a graceful way of saying, "I saw you litter, and littering is not acceptable", but also allowing the guy to save face. My husband is very good at that kind of thing.



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17 Sep 2010, 2:46 pm

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I'm far more interested in whether what someone is doing is ethical rather than whether it breaks the rules. Absolute rules usually irritate me a good deal, because they don't account for all situations.


I usually don't care about rules if I don't think they're the right behaviour to follow. Usually rules which stress consideration and respect for others are consistent with my ethical code. I don't behave in the way that I do simply because I'm afraid of breaking the rules but because I usually think it's the correct thing to do in most circumstances.

Of course the rules may be stupid and arbitrary and in that case I wouldn't resent people from ignoring them.



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18 Sep 2010, 7:33 am

I just get pissed off at random things that don't even pertain to me at all.

Just yesterday we were taking an in-class essay in my Brit Lit class. We had an hour to finish it. About 30-40min in I look at my friends paper which only had like one sentence on it. He was just sitting there twirling his pencil around and not even writing. I hadn't stopped writing since the class had started. I couldn't concentrate on my paper any more for the rest of the class. At one point he flipped his pencil across the room and then I whisper-yelled, "Dude! Write your f*cking paper already!" And he said he was 'brainstorming'. Who had time for brainstorming when you have an hour to write the paper?

Anyways.. I completely freak out over random stupid things like that.. They almost never pertain to me too.



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18 Sep 2010, 1:55 pm

I come unglued at people breaking rules. People putting their feet on the seats on the trains? I feel like my head will implode. And every time the train guard comes through, they take their feet off, then as soon as the guard moves on, they put them back, which just pi**es me off all the more because they are admitting (through their actions) that they know the rules, and know they are breaking them. Once day a friend told me she'd got a ticket for putting her feet on the train seats, and how upset she was, and I just couldn't muster a bit of sympathy. I mean, if you don't want a ticket, KEEP YOUR FEET OFF THE SEATS!

And Waitrose -- today I was waiting in the 'Baskets Only' queue, and there was this person with a full trolley was ahead of me. Why doesn't the woman at the till just point to the sing and ask them to choose another line?

I did an assembly at school the other day and repeated a quote I'd once read: "The right to swing your arms ends where the other person's nose begins."

(I think I probably tend to do more ''don't infringe on other people's rights" assemblies than the other teachers, but hey, maybe these kdis will grow up a bit more considerate?



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18 Sep 2010, 2:01 pm

Ha, I'm not a wistleblower. I'm more of a rebel when it comes to rules, at college you can't eat in the LRC, but I still hide my sandwich under the table when I'm on computers in there. :P
Oh but I hate double standards, like when you're a kid and your parents tell you to not swear but they swear all the time. That's one of the reasons I'm not rigid with rules because often the law enforcers don't seem to have to follow them.


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28 Oct 2010, 9:27 am

It doesn't bother me unless it effects me personally. I think the drinking age is unjustified anyways, here in the U.S.



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28 Oct 2010, 9:52 am

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I think it's because many people with AS get their sense of security, in what to them is a chaotic world, from following the rules. Therefore not following them is a much bigger deal. Seeing others not following them messes with that security.

I am completely obsessed by rules. I have rules for everything. I'm not sure if it's what keeps me sane or what keeps me insane. :D


I think this is true. I've always had this problem. Apparently even as a small child I would get angry with people who didn't obey the rules and would bring it to my parents attention all the time.

Now, I still feel like I don't have a prepared response, or a 'script' for what to do when people don't follow 'the rules', so I hate it when it happens. It feels like my world is falling apart LOL.



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28 Oct 2010, 9:56 am

MONKEY wrote:
Ha, I'm not a wistleblower. I'm more of a rebel when it comes to rules, at college you can't eat in the LRC, but I still hide my sandwich under the table when I'm on computers in there. :P


Ha, same here! :P

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Oh but I hate double standards, like when you're a kid and your parents tell you to not swear but they swear all the time. That's one of the reasons I'm not rigid with rules because often the law enforcers don't seem to have to follow them.


Very f**king true! :lol:



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28 Oct 2010, 1:23 pm

Well, I don't think I can say I have never broken a single rule, but I do find it upsetting when other people break the rules. Even as a kid. Once when we were going to take a bus somewhere, we were going to bring an accordian for one of my cousins, and they told us to say that it was actually for my brother because he played. This upset me very much. When they asked us what we were bringing it for, I immediately stepped up and said we were taking it to someone else.

At school, I would use this to get back at all the people who ever teased or bullied me. I'd keep a close eye on them, and the second I caught them doing something, I would tell the teacher. I guess it is kind of mean, but I did feel good, watching them get in trouble, get detention, and there was nothing they could do about it. I guess it was like payback.


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28 Oct 2010, 2:25 pm

Well I'm aspie and I break the law a lot, It's just that all fun things are illegal.



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07 May 2017, 9:55 am

Because rules and laws exist for a reason. If a rule was truly of no use, it would fall out of favor and fade away from lack of use. If a law were truly of no use, action could and would be taken to strike it.