Can you admit you're wrong when you know you're wrong?

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i am hardly ever wrong, but often the things i say are inaccurate. common conditions for inaccuracy include insufficient data (misconstrual of data being presented, usually), insufficient processing capacity or allocation (inappropriate prioritization), and unaccommodated bias. if i arrive at a conclusion with insufficient data then my conclusion is only provisional and the potential for unknown inconsistencies will already have been factored in. so if someone tells me that i am wrong, i have some idea to begin with of how plausible that is. if it seems plausible then i will try to obtain additional information and reconsider until the matter is satisfactorily resolved. if i deem that the matter is not worth reconsidering, it is because i have already considered it in depth and am not being presented with any information that is both previously unconsidered and pertinent. i do not have difficulty admitting when i have done something wrong because i do not take anything to be certain to begin with. it is also useful to be informed of my errors in allowing me to test for accuracy and hopefully to improve it.

Last edited by wornlight on 15 Nov 2010, 11:00 am, edited 3 times in total.

Yes. I have no problem with it, except when people gloat over my errors.

It's funny so far everyone has said that they have no problem with it. I personally think this is not because we're just not admitting it I think it's because we've admitted our conditions and their potential problems. Perhaps we have a more balanced viewpoint when compared to someone who just thinks they're neurotypical but aren't..

Correcting myself isn't enjoyable, but it's easy to avoid: don't make mistakes. Instead of saying 'x happened', simply quote the source you heard it from. If you say 'I heard that x', then you can't really be wrong.

If you say 'It seems that x', this also works. Though on that note, don't say 'It's my opinion that x', as this is vacuous tripe.

'Right and wrong' in this regard are not subjective value judgements. The only subjective value judgements are questions concerning favourite flavours of ice-cream and what should be illegal.

The question about being wrong points more to the fact that most people believe that Darwin was the first to talk about evolution, so if you say this and someone proves you wrong on the matter (as they can with Historical evidence) then you would be faced with the dilemma of confirming that you were wrong, or lying.

I do it all the time. Gets tedious. But hurting people is not what I mean to do. Is it being aspie or something else that makes me do it so often?

If I believed an erroneous fact to be true and you provided contradictory information of which I could verify it's veracity, then I would accept that I was "wrong". But I will not personalize that information as readily as an NT

And "wrong" is NOT a black and white concept. 1 + 1 = 3 being wrong is not the same as smoking weed being wrong. Right and wrong is entirely context sensitive. Smoking weed is wrong or right based on both context AND personal belief. Even something as concrete as 1+1=3, wrong in virtually EVERY commonly understood context is still not absolute in terms of right and wrong. But I can easily apply meanings to the symbols "1", "+","=" and "3" that make it a true (if the first 1 is the ordinal position an element of the set of ordered odd primes, the second "1" is the offset from the first, "=" means what you expect, then 1 + 1=3 is valid.

(1,3,5,7,11,13,...)

1+2=5
1+3=7
1+4=11
2+1=5
3+3=13

Wrong and right are not concepts so easily nailed down. And NT's do indeed personalize wrong and right, the depth of that personalization varying greatly depending on the context and the emotional investment within that context.

Do I admit when my facts are wrong? Readily and easily, without feeling bad about it. NT's expect me to feel something about such a mistake. I rarely do.

Do I admit when more relativistic 'mistakes' are made (is weed wrong?). Because I see the essential differences in context and point of view, it is hard for me to admit that I am wrong. But it is nearly as difficult for me to accuse another of being wrong, when it is often just different.

Irony!

Wrong number comes up topic

I have on this forum, when it was pointed out. Usually it is a matter of interpretation--then it is awkward. Factual errors can be even worse--especially when I have researched and screw up and the mistake is somewhat costly. then I do feel really low. But always admit to such. Short of murder/horrendous abuse (financial/sexual), errors can be fixed eventually, though reputations are another matter. I am just thankful I have not been a perpetrator of behaving unrevokably badly.

This springs to mind:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGJPF1c2GHE[/youtube]

If I'm wrong I'll admit it.

I say I am so stupid and they were right.

I also hate to be wrong so I refuse to guess or estimate. I always say "I think" "I bet" or "about (insert something here)" so people don't think I am stating a fact and bam I look stupid.

I admit I am wrong in different ways like "my bad" or "Oops stupid me" or "oops false memory I had there."

Only time I won't admit I am wrong is if I don't want to hear "I told you so" or hearing them gloat over being right and how wrong I was so I stay quiet and admit it to myself. Same as if I don't want to deal with any meanness from that person. If that person wasn't very nice to me, I won't come and tell them to their face they were right because I don't want to deal with their nastiness again. That's a way to keep someone from admitting they were wrong.

Why wrong is bad?

Every single school system has created a paradigm that either you are good and right or you are bad and wrong. When you're wrong your wrong, the jury has decided, period.

We have to admit we are wrong, it is a guilt (who admits he is right?). But there is so much value in error, so much clues that could make us understand and lead us to the correct thing to do. I never admit I am wrong, I try to ask the other to explain how he is right compared to me.