Dealing with mental fatigue
PatrickNeville wrote:
For me personally i need to chop and change what i am doing. I find that if i focus on a single task for too long i day dream and feel tried.
If i am working on something say like applying for jobs, organising something etc, is helps to have a person i know to encourage me along the way, otherwise i just ware myself out over thinking everything.
What I also try and do to avoid mental fatigue is to get some exercise, eat a proper breakfast and as i have seen other people say as well, if a task becomes difficult, try and focus on something different.
If i am working on something say like applying for jobs, organising something etc, is helps to have a person i know to encourage me along the way, otherwise i just ware myself out over thinking everything.
What I also try and do to avoid mental fatigue is to get some exercise, eat a proper breakfast and as i have seen other people say as well, if a task becomes difficult, try and focus on something different.
Chop and charge? I haven't heard that one before. It makes sense to me, though. Best to tackle a problem in little chunks rather than try to do it all at once. I need to learn how to do this more effectively... I love to get everything done at once. And, of course, that isn't always the best solution.
Exercise is a biggie for me. I really don't like it, but I grudgingly have to admit that I feel better when I do get out and move around for awhile. Most of the time I'm perfectly happy in my (mostly) sedentary lifestyle. That's one thing I'd like to change. Just getting out more often can improve a lot. I've heard exercise and sleep are often related, too, though I don't know if that's been absolutely proven or not.
I do try to have a healthy diet. I like vegetables quite a bit and have been getting better at cooking and preparing my own meals.
As for the third bit of advice... Unfortunately, getting someone to motivate me isn't really an option right now, as I live alone. When I was with my parents, though, my mom would always be good in that role. With her around, I always finished what I needed to do. I think she really compensated for most of the difficulties I have. I feel better when I'm able to be independent too. And that's why I want to develop some good strategies for managing my life and not getting too overwhelmed at every turn.
syrella wrote:
Maje wrote:
Some people are exhausting to me. I have a perfect example of this which I want to describe. It was 5 months ago and it was one of the very good days, where I had a good mood and almost felt balanced. I had an appointment with an old friend and was looking forward to it. We hadnt seen each other for a long time and I was curious. We met in a cafe and started talking about our lives and the person at some point had a monologue and I started to miss everything he was saying because it was so fast and it was like he wanted to finish speaking before I interupt, but he never came to an end. I noticed that I begun shivering because I was affected by his tension and I couldnt understand nothing. I had to interrupt him at some point to tell him that I was extremely uncomfortable, and asked if we could please change location. We went to a park, him still speaking all the time while I tried my best to calm down and listen. It didnt get better in the park and I dont remember his stories. When I went home I was completely confused and stressed. I walked around in my appartment for ca. one hour instead of sitting down. I tried to put on slow music, I tried to make a tea, I tried all the time to calm down, to sit on the floor or anywhere, but I couldnt. I was stressed and confused for 3 days after. Now I wandered what happened and I think that people affect me more than what is normal and more than what I had thought until that day. I know the person is very extreme, but because of that, this experience thought me something about myself. I was unconsciously affected by him and had no chance to control it, and that disturbed my own balance and stole all of my energy. I think this is the case anywhere I go.
Hmmm. I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you. It sounds like your friend is pretty intense and wasn't tuned into you at all. I've had something similar happen before, but the best I could do was just wait it out. It wasn't any fun.
I'm curious, is there anything you think you could've done to prevent the situation from happening? Or prevent it from happening again, short of just not seeing your friend? Have you tried talking about it with him? Or writing him a letter, if it's too difficult to say it to him?
Well I guess I have overestimated myself and have exposed myself to unharmonic surroundings because I have seen that other people dont seem to bother, so I always wanted to be strong and bear anything. Now I have learned that I have to take care of which input I get and which people I socialize with becaue I am over sensitive. This is something that I not long ago had to admit for myself, but which I also see very positive, because also a positive surrounding can give me energy and affect me more than in a good way
So I have to say that I dont think that I can cope with this guy unless he discovers budhism (hehe or the like), but it is not very sad because I only see him every 2 or 3 years, so I wont brake the contact.
PatrickNeville wrote:
syrella wrote:
against_the_clock wrote:
People with AS more commonly have a deficiency in melatonin which effects the amount you sleep. It is possible that you are not getting enough sleep and need a melatonin supplement. Ask your doctor about this or at least do some research on what melatonin supplements to take before you try it. I had this problem and it did cause me to be easily fatigued mentally.
Hmm. I hadn't thought about sleep as a possible culprit. I don't have trouble getting to sleep at night like I used to, but still, I often wake up tired. Maybe it has something to do with the quality of the sleep
Needless to say, thanks for the ideas. I'll definitely give it some thought. My mom actually recommended I try melatonin awhile back, though I never did. She has bipolar disorder and it seemed to help her quite a bit when she would suffer bouts of insomnia. I know my sleep problems aren't nearly as bad as that, thankfully!
I have heard melatonin is good as well. Also heard that Gaba is good too.
Valerian is good for helping a person get good nights sleep. Lettuce is good as well according to a friend.
However, I still ain't gone out and bought any of these. Need to give it a try.
Lettuce does have a mild sedating effect. What's even better is wild or 'great' lettuce (Lactuca Virosa) which grows as a weed in the summer round here, or you can get it from the health shop.
http://www.maltawildplants.com/ASTR/Lactuca_virosa.php
I take a melatonin supplement when I go to bed late, it seems to negate some of the effects of a late night. Feverfew contains melatonin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feverfew
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Maje wrote:
syrella wrote:
Maje wrote:
Some people are exhausting to me. I have a perfect example of this which I want to describe. It was 5 months ago and it was one of the very good days, where I had a good mood and almost felt balanced. I had an appointment with an old friend and was looking forward to it. We hadnt seen each other for a long time and I was curious. We met in a cafe and started talking about our lives and the person at some point had a monologue and I started to miss everything he was saying because it was so fast and it was like he wanted to finish speaking before I interupt, but he never came to an end. I noticed that I begun shivering because I was affected by his tension and I couldnt understand nothing. I had to interrupt him at some point to tell him that I was extremely uncomfortable, and asked if we could please change location. We went to a park, him still speaking all the time while I tried my best to calm down and listen. It didnt get better in the park and I dont remember his stories. When I went home I was completely confused and stressed. I walked around in my appartment for ca. one hour instead of sitting down. I tried to put on slow music, I tried to make a tea, I tried all the time to calm down, to sit on the floor or anywhere, but I couldnt. I was stressed and confused for 3 days after. Now I wandered what happened and I think that people affect me more than what is normal and more than what I had thought until that day. I know the person is very extreme, but because of that, this experience thought me something about myself. I was unconsciously affected by him and had no chance to control it, and that disturbed my own balance and stole all of my energy. I think this is the case anywhere I go.
Hmmm. I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you. It sounds like your friend is pretty intense and wasn't tuned into you at all. I've had something similar happen before, but the best I could do was just wait it out. It wasn't any fun.
I'm curious, is there anything you think you could've done to prevent the situation from happening? Or prevent it from happening again, short of just not seeing your friend? Have you tried talking about it with him? Or writing him a letter, if it's too difficult to say it to him?
Well I guess I have overestimated myself and have exposed myself to unharmonic surroundings because I have seen that other people dont seem to bother, so I always wanted to be strong and bear anything. Now I have learned that I have to take care of which input I get and which people I socialize with becaue I am over sensitive. This is something that I not long ago had to admit for myself, but which I also see very positive, because also a positive surrounding can give me energy and affect me more than in a good way
So I have to say that I dont think that I can cope with this guy unless he discovers budhism (hehe or the like), but it is not very sad because I only see him every 2 or 3 years, so I wont brake the contact.
Well, so long as you know where your comfort zone is and you learned something from the situation, then that's good.
Maybe you could ask to meet the guy in an even quieter place next time? Like someone's home. Or, perhaps, avoiding him altogether might be a good option. I know there are certain people who I can't deal with even on a good day.
Moog wrote:
PatrickNeville wrote:
syrella wrote:
against_the_clock wrote:
People with AS more commonly have a deficiency in melatonin which effects the amount you sleep. It is possible that you are not getting enough sleep and need a melatonin supplement. Ask your doctor about this or at least do some research on what melatonin supplements to take before you try it. I had this problem and it did cause me to be easily fatigued mentally.
Hmm. I hadn't thought about sleep as a possible culprit. I don't have trouble getting to sleep at night like I used to, but still, I often wake up tired. Maybe it has something to do with the quality of the sleep
Needless to say, thanks for the ideas. I'll definitely give it some thought. My mom actually recommended I try melatonin awhile back, though I never did. She has bipolar disorder and it seemed to help her quite a bit when she would suffer bouts of insomnia. I know my sleep problems aren't nearly as bad as that, thankfully!
I have heard melatonin is good as well. Also heard that Gaba is good too.
Valerian is good for helping a person get good nights sleep. Lettuce is good as well according to a friend.
However, I still ain't gone out and bought any of these. Need to give it a try.
Lettuce does have a mild sedating effect. What's even better is wild or 'great' lettuce (Lactuca Virosa) which grows as a weed in the summer round here, or you can get it from the health shop.
http://www.maltawildplants.com/ASTR/Lactuca_virosa.php
I take a melatonin supplement when I go to bed late, it seems to negate some of the effects of a late night. Feverfew contains melatonin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feverfew
Hmm.. Somehow that lettuce looks remarkably un-tasty. xD Like one of those leafy green salads that I'm not so fond of. If I ever see it at the store, though, I might pick some up. It doesn't seem like it could hurt, at any rate. And if it helps me sleep better, great.
As for valerian, I haven't even heard of that before. It's interesting how there are so many drugs and supplements out there. It really is mind-boggling.
syrella wrote:
Hmm.. Somehow that lettuce looks remarkably un-tasty. xD
You're right, it doesn't taste great on it's own
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As for valerian, I haven't even heard of that before. It's interesting how there are so many drugs and supplements out there. It really is mind-boggling. 
Yep, it's a huge, huge business. Stuff in the shops is also crazy prices usually, which is why I like wild herbs so much.
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