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23 Mar 2011, 9:13 am

Alot of it sounds like me, too. Not all of it but alot. I don't have any officixal dx. I'm going to ask my psychologist about irt this week. My bf and a few other people who've met me are certain I have this.



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23 Mar 2011, 9:22 am

Alot of it sounds like me, too. Not all of it but alot. I don't have any officixal dx. I'm going to ask my psychologist about irt this week. My bf and a few other people who've met me are certain I have this.



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23 Mar 2011, 9:49 am

An interesting attempt to try and document the differing paths of expression.

I know quite a number of aspie females in both personal and a professional role and I can certainly see where some of them fit those features quite well. Others are not as easy to pin point they have very strong conformity to the list of prequisites in one aspect and very little or are masking them very well in other area's.

Either way I think I will "aquire" this table and show it to some aspie females to see what their reaction will be. I suspect as well this is very much an "americainsed" version and so maybe it will differ slightly depending on the social standing and expectations of women in a given culture or society?


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23 Mar 2011, 10:04 am

Laz - do you mind me asking the nature of your profession? I'm not asking you to tell me your exact job necessarily but just the field maybe. I'm curious where there's such a high concentration of female Aspies.



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23 Mar 2011, 10:34 am

I am what we call in the UK one of these. But technically the job I do is not actually a nursing role as such it just makes use of my profession+asperger diagnosis

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Learning disabilities nursing

This page introduces learning disability nursing

What is it?
People with learning disabilities often have a wide range of physical and mental health conditions. Learning disability nurses work in partnership with them and family carers, to provide specialist healthcare. Their main aim is to support the well-being and social inclusion of people with a learning disability by improving or maintaining their physical and mental health; by reducing barriers; and supporting the person to pursue a fulfilling life. For example, teaching someone the skills to find work can be significant in helping them to lead a more independent, healthy life where they can relate to others on equal terms.

Learning disabilities nursing is provided in settings such as adult education, residential and community centres, as well as in patients' homes, workplaces and schools. You could specialise in such areas as education, sensory disability or the management of services. If you work in a residential setting, you may do shifts to provide 24-hour care.

What does it involve?
The emphasis is on nursing in a range of social settings, including, home, work and leisure activities. You will gain experience in four main areas;

* family settings
* adult education
* education for young people
* community/residential settings

Nurses specialising in learning disabilities will work as part of a team which includes, psychologists, social workers, teachers, general practitioners, occupational therapists, speech and language therapists and healthcare assistants.

What are the special needs?
Sensitive human interaction is the core skill. You will need to have great patience and highly developed, flexible communication skills.

The job can be stressful and demanding so self-awareness helps. You will sometimes need to be assertive to ensure people with a learning disability do not suffer discrimination. You will be dealing with all age ranges.

Working with people who have a learning disability is likely to be demanding and stressful at times, as progress can be slow, but satisfaction is great when someone has learned a new skill or can demonstrate new confidence in themselves thanks to your intervention.

Many learning disability nurses also occupy roles as managers, leading teams of support staff.

It is possible to combine training as a learning disabilities nurse with social work.


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23 Mar 2011, 10:44 am

Ah really interesting! I actually applied for a few jobs that sound similar (as aides to kids with autism) but I wasn't selected unfortunately! I would love to work with kids with autism. NT kids are lovable of course but I don't relate to them at all because I never was one. I relate to the kids too shy and too busy observing to talk or participate in social stuff. Even NT two-year-olds have small talk down to a science and I just don't think I'll ever understand the appeal of small talk.



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23 Mar 2011, 10:49 am

My career began working as a volunteer on a playscheme for children with learning disabilities. It was divided into two sites. One for the profoundly disabled with complex needs and mutli-sensory deficits. The other for emotional/behavioural who were quite able and active.

I spent a lot of time working with a young girl who was blind, deaf and severly disabled by cerebral pallsy. 90% of the workers at the scheme including the paid staff found her difficult to work with because she would cry all the time. I ended up making her laugh by figuring out that she could "sense" vibration and so would entertain her all day playing drums and other vibrating instruments very near to her body so she could feel the vibration. I actually made her laugh. And thus began my adventures in learning disability as I figured it would be cooler to do that then get a degree in psychology and patronise everyone with arm-chair psycho-analysis BS

There also happened to be two children with aspergers there who I got on with very well. It was like interacting with myself as a child all over again. Very fascinating and an intruiging learning experiance in self realisation of how aspergers comes across from the "outside" to others


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23 Mar 2011, 1:07 pm

I'm a man, and I can relate to the vast majority of what's on the chart - or at least I could have done when my ASD was more pronounced.

An additional point I could make is that I feel a bit more masculine now that my ASD has improved. I wonder why Aspies are more androgynous than the general population. Is it simply because we're less influenced by cultural norms, or something more inexplicably complex than that (like the tendency for Aspies to look younger than they are)?



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23 Mar 2011, 4:33 pm

Another_Alien wrote:
An additional point I could make is that I feel a bit more masculine now that my ASD has improved. I wonder why Aspies are more androgynous than the general population. Is it simply because we're less influenced by cultural norms, or something more inexplicably complex than that (like the tendency for Aspies to look younger than they are)?

I vote cultural norms. Could be both, yes, but many of the things deemed inherently female/girlish and masculine are merely fashion trends.


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23 Mar 2011, 5:12 pm

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I'm a man, and I can relate to the vast majority of what's on the chart ....

That's what I was saying in a roundabout way above. I don't know whether this is a good list of female Asperger's traits or a good list of Asperger's traits, regardless of gender -- which simply happened to come out of discussions with female Aspies.


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23 Mar 2011, 5:24 pm

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Another_Alien wrote:
I'm a man, and I can relate to the vast majority of what's on the chart ....

That's what I was saying in a roundabout way above. I don't know whether this is a good list of female Asperger's traits or a good list of Asperger's traits, regardless of gender -- which simply happened to come out of discussions with female Aspies.


I think it's pretty clearly the latter, whatever Rudy Simone's actual intent.



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24 Mar 2011, 1:09 am

Another_Alien wrote:
I wonder why Aspies are more androgynous than the general population. Is it simply because we're less influenced by cultural norms, or something more inexplicably complex than that (like the tendency for Aspies to look younger than they are)?


I tend to think of it along the lines of, "I have a hard enough time passing as HUMAN, and now you want me to act like a girl?!" I think we're pleasantly immune to a lot of the social conditioning that determines cultural gender cues.

But I do have to say, that list fits me better than other lists of Aspie characteristics that I've seen!