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03 Apr 2011, 6:05 pm

This is like the political subforum of any other forum I've been on. People will argue ridiculous things regardless of neurology.



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03 Apr 2011, 6:10 pm

Wrong planet and "wrong beliefs"... I wonder if there's any connection...



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03 Apr 2011, 6:41 pm

I don't remember reading such posts by other members. Also, not all of us have screwed up beliefs.


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03 Apr 2011, 6:50 pm

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I don't mean to be offensive, but I noticed on WP that there are some aspies and auties that have f***ed up beliefs. For example someone said that they think that incest should be legal. 8O Also, bestiality. Are there many people like that on WP? Did you have many experiences of seeing similar posts (not just referring to what I said before?)


This is the first I've seen of it. Looks like a fresh can of worms has just been opened.


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03 Apr 2011, 6:56 pm

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What legal consenting adults want to do with their genitals is their business - and no one elses.

:wink:

In reference to the "disturbing posts", I have never really seen anything too extreme that was not quickly removed and/or in the adult forum.


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03 Apr 2011, 7:33 pm

MyWorld wrote:
I don't mean to be offensive, but I noticed on WP that there are some aspies and auties that have f***ed up beliefs. For example someone said that they think that incest should be legal. 8O Also, bestiality. Are there many people like that on WP? Did you have many experiences of seeing similar posts (not just referring to what I said before?)


Aspies and HFAs are just as capable of having foolish opinions as are NTs.

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03 Apr 2011, 7:36 pm

I don't think the OP was saying that people with ASD's are the only one with f***ked up beliefs.
To answer their question, yeah, I've read some pretty horrendous stuff here, like racism.
Sometimes I wonder where the autism stops and the assholeness begins.
I need to stop using that word.


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03 Apr 2011, 8:31 pm

Poe's Law. Live it, learn it.


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03 Apr 2011, 8:32 pm

I've probably posted some ideas that some might find disturbing. One problem I have is that I tend to think in terms of what is POSSIBLE, not necessarily what is RIGHT.

For example, someone mentioned incest. I don't think incest is right, for example. However, I also believe that there defining a postmodern morality is extremely difficult without ultimately resorting to some absolute moral compass (such as religion). If we are to promote tolerance and acceptance of all people and respect their feelings, then incest cannot be wrong. If what happens between two adults is their business and theirs alone, then what an adult brother and sister do in the privacy of their own house in bedroom is nothing we have a right to judge them over.

Now, if we DO judge them, why?

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Now, I think most "normal" people wouldn't even discuss it. It's just too, um, weird. But someone like me tends to take everything literally. I take almost every discussion as a serious discussion and have difficulty telling when it isn't unless it's very obvious. Sadly, when I do "loosen up," people don't get my humor. I think by the nature of HOW we tend to think and why certain topics are taboo, etc., we might have an increased tendency to talk about things "normal people" think are messed up to even bring up in conversation. Even I've said that IF--and "IF" is the operative word here--that there is nothing at all wrong with consensual premarital sex, then there should be no problem with pedophilia. That doesn't make me a pedophile. All I'm saying is that people are a) inconsistent when it comes to moral attitudes (it's ok in this situation but not in a different situation) and b) in denial over the nature and origin of morality. I think it gives the impression that we believe some messed up things, but only because we're less afraid to discuss things no one else wants to talk about.



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03 Apr 2011, 8:51 pm

I did once use the phrase 'sex with farm yard animals' .....but it was a joke....

I've noticed some aspies take things literally or misquote, so my apologies to the animals on that one.

I remember a regular menber wanted to do the wild thing with a furry animal suit on? 8O



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03 Apr 2011, 8:52 pm

MyWorld wrote:
I don't mean to be offensive, but I noticed on WP that there are some aspies and auties that have f***ed up beliefs. For example someone said that they think that incest should be legal. 8O Also, bestiality. Are there many people like that on WP? Did you have many experiences of seeing similar posts (not just referring to what I said before?)
"f****d up beliefs" is highly subjective.



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03 Apr 2011, 9:54 pm

Surfman wrote:
I did once use the phrase 'sex with farm yard animals' .....but it was a joke....

I've noticed some aspies take things literally or misquote, so my apologies to the animals on that one.

I remember a regular menber wanted to do the wild thing with a furry animal suit on? 8O


The fur suit thing is a part of a minority group/fetish known as Furries (in the most extreme cases of Furrydom) :roll:. I know this b/c I've met furries at college.


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03 Apr 2011, 10:10 pm

Peko wrote:
Surfman wrote:
I did once use the phrase 'sex with farm yard animals' .....but it was a joke....

I've noticed some aspies take things literally or misquote, so my apologies to the animals on that one.

I remember a regular menber wanted to do the wild thing with a furry animal suit on? 8O


The fur suit thing is a part of a minority group/fetish known as Furries (in the most extreme cases of Furrydom) :roll:. I know this b/c I've met furries at college.

I saw a couple of furries on an episode of My Strange Addiction. I wonder how difficult the fur suits are to make? Where do they get supplies? On the internet or in fabric shops?



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03 Apr 2011, 11:16 pm

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Roxas_XIII wrote:
And NT's don't have some f**ked up beliefs? Last time I checked, there wasn't anybody in the Phelps family with diagnosed Asperger's/autism, yet they're still out there being idiots.


Who?


The Westboro Baptist Church. They're the ones behind all the protests at military funerals, disaster memorials and the like. I'm sure the majority of America wouldn't even care if the whole clan were to suddenly and mysteriously disappear. Hell, they might even throw a party.


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03 Apr 2011, 11:39 pm

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For example, someone mentioned incest. I don't think incest is right, for example. However, I also believe that there defining a postmodern morality is extremely difficult without ultimately resorting to some absolute moral compass (such as religion). If we are to promote tolerance and acceptance of all people and respect their feelings, then incest cannot be wrong. If what happens between two adults is their business and theirs alone, then what an adult brother and sister do in the privacy of their own house in bedroom is nothing we have a right to judge them over.

Now, if we DO judge them, why?


You say incest is not right, but you also say that what adult brother and sister do in privacy of their own house in the bedroom is their own business we have no right to judge them. I'm still confused about your stance on the whole incest, you seem to contradict yourself. The reason why incest is wrong because if brother and sister were to procreate, their child is a lot more likely to to have genetic problems, such as mental retardation, very poor health, extra fingers/toes, physical deformity, genetic autosomal recessive disorders (such as hemophilia), higher child mortality, among several things. I really don't see the benefit of incest.



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03 Apr 2011, 11:47 pm

^^^ Ah. Now consider the thought experiment:

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Julie and Mark are brother and sister. They are traveling together in France on summer vacation from college. One night they are staying alone in a cabin near the beach. They decide that it would be interesting and fun if they tried having sex. At the very least, it would be a new experience for each of them. Julie was already taking birth control pills, but Mark uses a condom too, just to be safe even though he has had a vasectomy. They both enjoy having sex, but they decide never to do it again.


Under these conditions, divorced from your biological argument, is what they did still wrong? Does it still disgust you? They are not in any way likely to reproduce and thereby express recessive traits in offspring.

If you still find this to be wrong, then you must admit that there is another component to your judgment of it than the merely biological.


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