*article* Arrested LulzSec hacker has Asperger's Syndrome

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This is kind of what I was getting at.

While I certainly don't condone the criminal behavior of LulzSec's attacks, Ryan Cleary just happened to be the only one that law enforcement managed to arrest. And the disposition of Asperger's Syndrome in this case does complicate it somewhat. Was Ryan a basically harmless guy who (because of AS) was naive and gullible enough to fall in with people who intended to do serious harm? I don't pretend to know the truth, I'm merely offering a hypothetical possibility for discussion.

I’m sorry you are right I should have made that statement clearer.
He is a Englishman living in England, and would there for be subject to the relevant laws of The United Kingdom and or English law, (which applies in England and Wales) , and where applicable Northern Ireland law, Northern Ireland and where applicable the law of Scotland.
So should his crimes have been committed against bank businesses and the like operating inside England but owned and or controlled by companies based in or controlled from countries with in the boundaries of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Crown Dependencies, he will serve his time with in a Jail situated within the area know as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Crown Dependencies.

It's really not worth getting upset over. Pointing out an error is not personal.

Thanks for your explanations. I still wouldn't say it is meaningless, since Scottish law is still British law, and Scottish law, also, since Scotland is part of the island of Great Britian. I guess it's just nitpicking on my behalf, but I agree that it would be meaningless to say that there is ONE British law, whereas there is at least three.

At the risk of being accused of pedantry, I really must press this point. You will never see the inside of a British court, because there aren't any. Nor would you study British law, because such a thing does not exist.

I'll concede that geographical purposes you could talk about British law, but it makes about as much sense as calling Swedish law "Scandanavian law".

What may not be widely appreciated is that the United Kingdom is a political entity unlike any other; it is a Union of distinct and separate nation states who happen to share many things such as Parliament, Sovereign, defence, foreign policy etc.

Excuse the interruption...I'm just wondering about the case, the Aspie. Am I being naive or isn't there some kind of problem with 'outing' the man? Most headlines I see don't read 'Alleged Robber Caught - Found to be BiPolar', 'Wallstreet Stock Secrets Shared by Man with Aneurysm/Epilepsy' or 'Peeping Tom May Have Anger Management Problems'. Is related at all to the U.K. origin? Guess maybe I have the idea ingrained in my head that 'Innocent Until Proven Guilty' has certain implications and that, even when proven guilty, 'criminals' are still accorded certain rights. Privacy (to not have one's conditions/details released to the public, for example) maybe should have been maintained. Maybe? ...Linking Asperger's to computer crimes, motivation for such crimes...it's a scary media-mechanism move.

It's the fault of the "Liberal Media" - if news reports were more conservative, only the basics would be reported:

1. Who was involved
2. What happened
3. When did it happen
4. Where did it happen
5. How did it happen
6. Why did it happen

Conservative View

John Smith was arrested on charges of disorderly conduct last night. He is alleged to have been playing his guitar at maximum volume in the common area of Acme Arms Housing Complex. "There is an electrical outlet there", said a witness. "He just plugged in his amp and started playing, stopping only to toss back another lager now and then". Rumors abound as to Mr. Smith's motives, including a recent break-up with his girlfriend.

Liberal View

A tattooed and visibly intoxicated John Smith, a chronically unemployed Aspie, was arrested on charges of disorderly conduct last night. He is alleged to have been playing his guitar at maximum volume and singing lyrics that glorified violence against women and minorities in the common area of Acme Arms Housing Complex, a housing project for low-income families and paroled felons. "There is an electrical outlet there", said a witness. "He just plugged in his amp and started playing, stopping only to toss back another lager now and then". Rumors abound as to Mr. Smith's motives, including a recent break-up with his girlfriend, who works as an exotic dancer and escort at the Kitties Galore Gentleman's Club near the warehouse district.

I hope the hacker is at least somewhat big in size if not someone better send him one of those inflateable rubber rings you sit on to comfort your anus. He needs to find a niche he can fill amongst the inmates such as learning about law so he can help inmates as a jailhouse lawyer to give legal advice on how to stage an appeal or do a petty lawsuit gainst the prison or they will tear his ass up in there. He could also help teach computer skills or how to do computer hacking or fraud. They don't call a prison con college for nothing. If he can make himself useful to someone on the inside he will be protected if not he will be needing diapers by the time he gets out. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

For you to glorify prison rape, and attempt to celebrate and justify it as part of the deterrent for crime prevention is both sickening and sad.
Thankfully unlike America, it is not part of everyday life in a British/English/UK prison. In the country that invented civilisation and freedom we English have less barbaric but equally as effective means of punishing the prisoners, we show them American comedy shows24/7, it’s enough to drive most of them insane.