Any AS people here who enjoyed school?

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02 Nov 2011, 6:06 pm

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I was in special ed because I had a speech delay and developmental delays. Plus I was diagnosed as having autism in my early childhood and then it was autistic behavior and then communication disorder. I was also labeled as being multi handicapped and I scored in the mildly ret*d range.

Then when I was older, it was to do catch up with my education and then it was for me to get help with my school work because the work got too hard for me. I even had meltdowns in class too and part of my IEP was for me to go back to the resource room when I act up. If a normal student acted up in class, they be sent to the office or be given detention but not me.

I have learning difficulties too and I was told that is part of my AS and the work is too abstract for me and I am a concrete thinker. But what baffles me is if aspies are so concrete, then how on earth do they do school work without any work modifications or extra help with it? I have even heard of them going to college and I wonder how on earth do they do it without help? I was even told algebra was concrete but if it's so concrete, then why would I have troubles with it and why couldn't I grasp it? It's abstract. Maybe my last ex was full of it when he said it. My school finally had to dummy down my math because they realized I wasn't grasping it nor learning.

Special ed doesn't always mean for people who have below average IQ's. It can be for people with learning disabilities.


Math was the most difficult for me to do, because when you can't get into the higher numbers, you can't really visualize them very well. Also, I tended to go too fast in things and make small mistakes, and in a math equation, one small mistake will through off the entire answer. That always frustrated me.
Give me science with how the body works, the world around us, without huge math equations, although math can be used for a good way to measure and predict things, and I did well. Psychology as well as anatomy and physiology, were my favorite classes I'd ever taken. The human body and mind are absolutely fascinating to me.



Temple Grandin has mentioned her inability to do algebra as well because it's too abstract for her and she can't make a image in her head.



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02 Nov 2011, 6:10 pm

LunaUlysses wrote:
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I was in special ed because I had a speech delay and developmental delays. Plus I was diagnosed as having autism in my early childhood and then it was autistic behavior and then communication disorder. I was also labeled as being multi handicapped and I scored in the mildly ret*d range.

Then when I was older, it was to do catch up with my education and then it was for me to get help with my school work because the work got too hard for me. I even had meltdowns in class too and part of my IEP was for me to go back to the resource room when I act up. If a normal student acted up in class, they be sent to the office or be given detention but not me.

I have learning difficulties too and I was told that is part of my AS and the work is too abstract for me and I am a concrete thinker. But what baffles me is if aspies are so concrete, then how on earth do they do school work without any work modifications or extra help with it? I have even heard of them going to college and I wonder how on earth do they do it without help? I was even told algebra was concrete but if it's so concrete, then why would I have troubles with it and why couldn't I grasp it? It's abstract. Maybe my last ex was full of it when he said it. My school finally had to dummy down my math because they realized I wasn't grasping it nor learning.

Special ed doesn't always mean for people who have below average IQ's. It can be for people with learning disabilities.


Math was the most difficult for me to do, because when you can't get into the higher numbers, you can't really visualize them very well. Also, I tended to go too fast in things and make small mistakes, and in a math equation, one small mistake will through off the entire answer. That always frustrated me.
Give me science with how the body works, the world around us, without huge math equations, although math can be used for a good way to measure and predict things, and I did well. Psychology as well as anatomy and physiology, were my favorite classes I'd ever taken. The human body and mind are absolutely fascinating to me.


Thats one thing I like about Calculus: most of the numbers are nice and small, and I figured out how to visualize functions and how to visualize most mathematical objects as nice and fluid functions. I prefer functions to numbers, and calculus focuses on functions, not numbers. I have a reputation of being the uber math genius, but I still make a ton of minor mistakes while making calculations and manipulating expressions. Everything is perfect in my head, the mistakes come from accidentally writing down the wrong thing, but I usually catch these mistakes pretty quickly, and if I don't catch them immediately I catch them when things stop making sense, or if it's a multiple choice question when what I got isn't one of the choices. I'm writing my own little mathematical theory right now, but I feel it's somewhat abstract, expecially for something created by an Aspie.

I've always been fascinated with biology, particullary the human body. Before my dad had a career change and became....(I'm not sure if it's a minor security threat to say what he is, I may have already said too much already) he was the director of education at a "health museum" (for a period of his career he taught sex Ed at random schools, and I know he once gave a presentation at a school for people with AS, I've always been in the mainstream with only special classes added on top of it) and I've been looking at pictures of the human viscera since I was a small child. I know more about biology than the people who actually took Biology as a class, it really disappointed me when I couldn't take the class due to scheduling problems and I had to take Enviro. Biology, which does not interest me in the slightest.



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03 Nov 2011, 12:02 am

I enjoyed it somewhat. My homelife wasn't good so I was happy for some piece. Early one I accedently knock a bully down a flight of stairs. I didnt get messes with after that.
I think im as well adjusted as i am is becuase i ran towords the outside world for a sactuary insead of home. Issues canceling out :-)



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03 Nov 2011, 8:33 am

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A common factor among AS people I've seen/met (including myself) had a miserable time in school.


I hated school because it interfered with my reading. Plus while I didn't get bullied much (because I fought back), periodically I'd do something that would make everyone just kind of draw back from me, where I knew I'd violated some social norm again and would have to figure out what it was so I could stop doing it, which was a pain.

And school always seemed so pointless. My grades were kind of dismal up until I was somewhere between nine and eleven and found a collection of my father's old report cards -- when I discovered he actually got the kind of grades he expected me to get (mostly A's). Up until then I'd been convinced the whole grade thing was just this twisted, meaningless grade game the school people and my dad colluded on so dad could have another reason to get mad at me. Grades never seemed to measure anything meaningful -- school was supposed to be about teaching you stuff, but I'd get terrific grades in classes where I'd learned nothing, and awful grades in classes where I'd learned a lot. So when I saw my dad wasn't a total hypocrite I started making an effort and my grades went up. They were never good enough to satisfy my dad but I did pretty well on paper. But I still thought school was pointless and being forced to spend my days doing something so meaningless was profoundly depressing.



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03 Nov 2011, 10:57 am

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I've also noticed a lot of AS people were in special ed. Why is that, exactly? I was in regular classes, and I thought people with AS were of average intelligence.


I've tested with a 131 iq and in sixth grade they started putting me in special ed classes and after sixth grade they put me in a special class where I would just stay in the same room all day.

I think it was because I didn't do much schoolwork and I was unable to get along with the other kids.

I hated it so much. I was counting down the days until I could turn 16 and quit since early grade school.



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03 Nov 2011, 11:07 am

Hated grade school and my first HS, but I loved my 2nd HS. It was so big, offered so many great classes! My Sr year, I took theater, choir, improv drama, and college level courses in english, physics, history and economics. Basically all electives, I was in class 7am to 4pm and did extra-curriculars afterwards. Lots of things to do.

Hated college though, it seemed remedial after my last HS year.

Never had patience for "relearning" what I already knew. Never was good at just walking the line for no reason.



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03 Nov 2011, 11:26 am

Hated the grammar school, but loved the infants' school and (to a lesser extent) the primary school. This was back in the 1950s-1960s when things were rather more prim and proper than they are now. None of this modern open-plan rubbish. Work was explained clearly, we were given silence to work in, and Dad had taught me my letters and numbers before I went to school, so I was at a huge advantage. Academic performance was everything in those days - we were really judged on it as people. No bullies - we were too closely watched, and there was zero tolerance on disruptive behaviour. No testing of social performance, no group projects....we were all about the individual and what they could do alone. What a day - walk in, confidently achieve some targets while others struggled with them, receive pat on head and gold star stuck in work book, go home.

Admittedly I didn't like the times I was in trouble...the teachers were quite fierce when they were angry....but I didn't feel unfairly treated, I did some fairly disruptive things on impulse from time to time.



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03 Nov 2011, 11:30 am

Elementary = Awful, I was bullied and taunted nonstop. Middle school= alright although I was a raging a**hole. High School first 2 years = home school, boring. High School last two years = Awful, but not because of bullying or anything. I was top of my class, everyone liked me and knew of me, but I was thinking about how awful our education system is and it peed me off to no end so I was not happy going to school but while I was there it was pretty good.



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03 Nov 2011, 11:49 am

Nope. I never enjoyed school. There might have been a few courses I liked but rarely. I had problems all the time: being bullied in grammar school, then problems with teachers authority and refusal to do assignments or entire courses I didn't like in high school in college. Even when I returned to college in my early 30s I has these types of issues.



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03 Nov 2011, 4:29 pm

I loved elementary school up until grade 4, and I loved college too. I just got off on learning! Middle school and high school were not fun cuz of the social politics.


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03 Nov 2011, 4:52 pm

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I loved elementary school up until grade 4, and I loved college too. I just got off on learning! Middle school and high school were not fun cuz of the social politics.


I love learning, but I hate school, as I don't learn a lot in it for the time I spend in it because I learn too fast (or I already know everything from either studies independent of school or from previous years) and too much time in school is spent doing review, and the whole social aspect takes up time. Also school pushes conformity and kills indepedent thinking. I learn a lot more out if school than in school



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03 Nov 2011, 4:58 pm

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I loved elementary school up until grade 4, and I loved college too. I just got off on learning! Middle school and high school were not fun cuz of the social politics.


I love learning, but I hate school, as I don't learn a lot in it for the time I spend in it because I learn too fast (or I already know everything from either studies independent of school or from previous years) and too much time in school is spent doing review, and the whole social aspect takes up time. Also school pushes conformity and kills indepedent thinking. I learn a lot more out if school than in school


You are right, but I just enjoyed the fact that a lot of my classes kickstarted special interests for me. So I could learn more about those in my free time.


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04 Nov 2011, 12:40 am

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I already know everything from either studies independent of school

Beside reading documentary books and loving learning I never get to that point, with a few exceptions... How could you have learned that much! Wish I had your brain.


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04 Nov 2011, 1:02 am

I don't remember having any opinion of school in the first 8 years. It was just somewhere I went, no choices... I hadn't really worked out that I was a person with choices.

I enjoyed high school because I really enjoyed the learning and because of a few teachers who made me feel the most understood that I had ever felt. They could see that I was isolated and overwhelmed and they took time to connect with me. I didn't have this at all at home, so I looked forward to going to school to feel not so alone with my struggles. Plus, because it was my routine, I found weekends and holidays very unsettling, I would have much preferred to go to school every day :lol: