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Einsteinologist
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07 Dec 2011, 12:44 am

cinbad wrote:
"I get disturbed that I want to act on what I 'think' happened, and that I missed the mark of what really did. I've been wondering if this is part of a ToM deficit (i.e. I have misinterpretation issues)"

This is what I think he has! He tried to describe it before. I think he said that he has trouble discerning "fantasy from reality".

ToM deficit?


ToM stands for "Theory of Mind", one area aspies are said to have trouble in.

The wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind
(There is a section on the deficits in autism.)

I could be thinking way outside the box, I'm just trying to figure out where my interpretation issues stem from -- seemingly a combination of my intense fantasy world, wishful thinking, and strugglling to *read* others (Theory of Mind deficits, also called "Mind Blindness").

I realize this subject is belonging in another thread now, but the topic relation fascinates me, nonetheless.



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07 Dec 2011, 12:49 am

I have too many memories. I've done too much.



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07 Dec 2011, 10:04 am

Einsteinologist, I believe the sequence is:

traumatic event->amygdala->adrenalin->hippocampus->memory->x perseverative replay=PTSD

When women come in to the ER after a rape, the perscription of choice is for a heavy dose beta blocker, which blocks the uptake of adrenalin. The more emotionally charged (adrenalized) the memory, the stickier it is.

emotionally charged unpleasant memories are like a bad tooth that one's tongue won't stay away from, in a "yep, still there, still hurts," kinda way.

Compulsive reliving of good memories probably allows you to reexperience a degree of the pleasurable dopamine the event originally induced. At least, for awhile. So, perhaps we keep returning to them on a dopamine chase, like an internalized ADHD. That's just conjecture on my part, I've never looked into any of this.
So, take it with more than just a single grain of salt.

A lot of us could win prizes in the perseveration+ touchy amygdala category. It is, I believe, one of the sources of our memory differences. Again this is simply conjecture. I haven't gotten around to thinking much about memory yet.



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07 Dec 2011, 2:33 pm

Wow, what you said makes total sense to me! I, too, do a lot of theorizing without actual research, based on what I HAVE researched. It's ok. And btw, I have ADHD, so that part made total sense to me. :)

This is a HUGE topic for me, so I'll stop for now... so much to think on! I'm also interested in studying the implications of music on memory, as I'm a musician, and have discovered so weird phenomena! ~E.



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07 Dec 2011, 3:19 pm

plantwhisperer wrote:
Ojani, you probably saved yourself a lot of time with the conviction, "it couldn't have worked out."
It took me 11 years to figure that out. It makes feel stupid to think about it that way, but like cinbad I hope I'm better equipped for the next time. "Older, but wiser", I just repeat it like a mantra. :)

Indeed. Thanks both you and cinbad.