''He's Autistic - he ain't a proper friend!''

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13 Jan 2012, 9:59 am

I just feels like some NTs think that Autistic people ''don't count'' as a friend or boy/girlfriend. I find it really irritating. I speak to my Autistic friend on Facebook, I meet him in town sometimes, we go to the cinema, we have lunch, we go to his flat and chat, and do all the other things what friends do. He's a friend just as much as all my NT friends are.


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13 Jan 2012, 2:58 pm

Yeah, I've had that happen to me. I actually lost a friend because I defended another friend he frequently made fun of (he made fun of her because she's autistic, her speech problems and slow ability to process information). One day, me and him were playing Kick The Can at recess, and my other friend (the autistic one) decided to join us. That's when my NT friend told my autistic friend, "you're too ret*d to even play this!" He tried to flap his hands and suck on his jacket sleeve (he was mimicing what she did sometimes, but in a bad way). As she ran away crying I said to him, "she's my friend too, f**k you! So what if she's autistic? She's a hell of a lot more fun to hang out with than you!". The guy never talked to me again.



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13 Jan 2012, 3:11 pm

That seems like a very ignorant, and rude thing to say.

If I heard something said like that I would be very upset with the person who said it and anyone who allowed it to be said without saying, "Well, that is just wrong".

People are uninformed, and unaware and rude sometimes-- behavior like thatto me defines a bad friend, not a person's ability or disability.


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13 Jan 2012, 3:24 pm

Bovine scatalogy! While I never made a lot of friends, the ones I did are on my Facebook Page some 15-25 years later.
I'm very loyal, if not always expressive.
The ignorance of humanity in general continues to appall me!

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13 Jan 2012, 11:55 pm

Saying that an Autistic person doesn't count as a friend sounds like nothing but ignorant superficiality to me. A friend is defined as a person whom one knows and with whom one has a bond of mutual affection. Autistics are definitely people and can show affection towards others, which makes them easily count as a friend. An autistic person is just as human as any NT. I guess this idea just seems to surpass the pea-sized, close-minded brains of some idiots. I hate how some people believe that if something isn't "normal" that it is wrong. Being "normal" is an impossible standard that people strive way too much for. There are too many differences among people for normalcy to actually exist.



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14 Jan 2012, 12:47 am

I think people who think that are not proper friends



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14 Jan 2012, 4:36 am

I'm pretty sure the assumption by such people is that autistics /cannot/ be "proper friends", for whatever reason.



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15 Jan 2012, 12:58 pm

This is (one of the reasons) why I hide my AS...


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16 Jan 2012, 9:12 pm

It's true , if some one wanted to be my friend I'd ask why?

What can I offer you?

What can you offer me in return ?

Answer: Nothing

I am a machine that can not be loved don't you get that ?


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17 Jan 2012, 5:58 pm

Joe90 wrote:
Do you hate it when NTs say these kinds of things? Not sure if anyone here has had somebody saying something stupid like this about Autistic people, but I have. It seems that this NT who said this seems to believe that anyone with any disability aren't proper friends, and that you only have to have an average NT to be a proper friend.

I have an Autistic friend who I actually dated for a couple of months, then I finished with him because I didn't feel ready to have a relationship with boys yet (I was only 17 at the time). But the other day I was having a conversation with an NT about boyfriends, and I said, ''I've had a boyfriend before, he was Autistic'', and the NT was like, ''but he doesn't really count, he's just Autistic'', and that made me feel angry. It's as though she believed that Autistic people don't have real feelings or aren't real friends, and it really annoyed me because Autistics DO have feelings, and having an Autistic boy/girlfriend or just friend is just as much of a friend as having an NT boy/girlfriend or friend.

Has anyone else met an NT who believes that Autistic people (or people with other disabilities) aren't real friends? Did/does it make you angry?


To answer your two questions, Joe90: Out of all of the NTs that I have known (and interacted with) in my life, I have never come across one that said something along the lines of "Autistic people (or people with a non-ASD disability) aren't real friends". Second, if a NT said that to me, I would take it as a trolling attempt and just ignore it.



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17 Jan 2012, 6:52 pm

I would not know how to be some ones friend do you?

And if we try most of us going to be discarded like a used condom anyways so why bother ?


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17 Jan 2012, 7:56 pm

Would you like me to be your friend?


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17 Jan 2012, 8:41 pm

And she ?


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18 Jan 2012, 6:34 pm

Not even sure why an autistic would want a friend how are you going to make yourself lovable to some one act like a designer dogie at the pet shop window panting and waging it's little tail? and for what so the heiress can dump you when she tires of you ?



I'm not sure why the poor dogie should go through all that indignity.





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18 Jan 2012, 9:29 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
I would not know how to be some ones friend do you?

And if we try most of us going to be discarded like a used condom anyways so why bother ?


That's a new way of putting it for sure!

I get that even before I was diagnosed with ASD...I have other disabilities and I used to always be told that I should have non-disabled friends (I do now) and I was like "Um...they understand when I'm too sick to hang out"



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19 Jan 2012, 2:19 pm

It's not just people with disabilities who people not count as a ''proper friend''. It's also people who are foreign, or if they're a lot older than me. I have a friend who is 40 years older than me, and although that sounds ''wrong'', it isn't. She is the same gender as me, we have a lot in common (I'm not into parties and dressing up and etc like other youngsters are), and we get on well, and she treats me like a proper friend. It's better to be with somebody who is a proper friend, than to hang out with anyone so long as they're you're age. I made that mistake before - I got in with the wrong crowd, just because I couldn't find anyone else of my age, and they were just so horrible to me that I had to get away from them and have nothing to do with them. Now I have a few people of my age as friends, who are not NTs. And I have older people as friends who are NTs, and I have a foreign friend who's a little bit older than me. But I think they are descent friends, doesn't matter what neurology, age and race.

It's whether they're nice to me or not that really counts. I would have thought NTs should know that.


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