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21 Aug 2012, 3:38 pm

Being impaired because of autism doesn't mean I can't do those many small things that make me happy.

I greatly enjoy some activities that I am very much disadvantaged at compared to other people. I do not enjoy some activities that I am extremely good at or could be if I paid attention to them.


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21 Aug 2012, 3:52 pm

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How can you accept this and live a normal life knowing that you're at disadvantage? What's the point of living then if you can never catch up to others?


Can you run as fast as Usain Bolt? Are you as intelligent as Einstein?

It is not logical to be unhappy about some disability or lack of talent in something. No one can be omnipotent.


The problem with the Einstein example is that A LOT of people expect people with Asperger's to like Einstein since it's often believed he had Asperger's.

So yeah...society's piss-poor view of people with AS doesn't help much with the overall problem here.


Einstein's condition is not clear. Some people claim that Hitler and Marilyn Monroe also have AS. For God's sake, what Einstein, Hitler and Marilyn Monroe have in common, other than *some* symptoms of AS?

AS cannot give a general idea about anyone's capability and personality. And yeah, society loves to generalize, which is the core problem makes us feel down and incapable.


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21 Aug 2012, 4:14 pm

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No, we're brilliant. Revered in some cultures, and rightly so, I reckon. Just because the decadent Western mainstream sometimes thinks we're inferior doesn't mean you have to go along with it. What have they got that's so ruddy marvellous?


This exactly.↑↑↑

Also, your characterization of all Aspies being distinctly disadvantaged is entirely wrong. In fact, I'd say I have a significant advantage over Neurotypicals of my age and that advantage is maturity. While I am enjoying a satisfying life and a good job, some of my Neurotypical classmates will be begging on the streets, filled with resentment for the fact that their only notable achievements are messing around, drinking alcohol excessively, leaving school at 16 without any qualifications, spending the only money they have on illegal drugs and making life difficult for others. Seriously, some Neurotypical kids much younger than myself actually do some of this. They seem like the disadvantaged ones to me!



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21 Aug 2012, 8:16 pm

I'm not ret*d....I'm just a little slow. :wink:


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21 Aug 2012, 8:28 pm

I think everyone is a bit ret*d.



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21 Aug 2012, 8:41 pm

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Unless ''retaded'' is some word I never heard of (excuse my lack of knowledge), please correct it's spelling.


Its spelling.


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21 Aug 2012, 8:49 pm

Curiotical wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
No, we're brilliant. Revered in some cultures, and rightly so, I reckon. Just because the decadent Western mainstream sometimes thinks we're inferior doesn't mean you have to go along with it. What have they got that's so ruddy marvellous?


This exactly.↑↑↑

Also, your characterization of all Aspies being distinctly disadvantaged is entirely wrong. In fact, I'd say I have a significant advantage over Neurotypicals of my age and that advantage is maturity. While I am enjoying a satisfying life and a good job, some of my Neurotypical classmates will be begging on the streets, filled with resentment for the fact that their only notable achievements are messing around, drinking alcohol excessively, leaving school at 16 without any qualifications, spending the only money they have on illegal drugs and making life difficult for others. Seriously, some Neurotypical kids much younger than myself actually do some of this. They seem like the disadvantaged ones to me!


Hmm well there are people with aspergers who drink excessively, leave school at 16 with no qualifications, and spend money on illegal drugs and some do actively make life difficult for others, while I am sure there are both neurotypicals and autistics who have caused difficulties for others unintentionally to.


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21 Aug 2012, 9:04 pm

Even if we were simply "ret*d," what difference does it make?



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21 Aug 2012, 11:37 pm

I am not a retad!!



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21 Aug 2012, 11:43 pm

We're socially and emotionally ret*d.


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21 Aug 2012, 11:49 pm

League_Girl wrote:
We're socially and emotionally ret*d.


hmm I'd say it depends on how you look at it.


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21 Aug 2012, 11:59 pm

Autists are no more likely to have intellectual deficits than anyone else.


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22 Aug 2012, 12:11 am

I'm bald.

There are many things normal people do that I can't, like style their hair or stand in the sun.

Society sees having a full head of hair as normal. Hair is used to instantly judge someone (especially in business). It is commonplace in the media, and socially accepted, to laugh at bald people. Apparently we're supposed to get the joke and laugh right along.

I can dwell on the fact that I'm not normal IN THIS REGARD, and extrapolate that to all areas of my life and ask "what's the point?".

Or I can say "#@$% you society. You're the one who needs to change" and focus on the areas in life where I kick most people's ass.

I'm not a hair retad :)



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22 Aug 2012, 3:47 am

IMO "ret*d" is an out of date word that offends too many people and shouldn't be used, especially the over use of the shortened term "ret*d" to make fun of people with disadvantages. But Aspegers to me has extreme advantages, but for me a huge lack in social understanding.

So maybe I'm half ret*d? :P

Heck dude, everyone is ignorant with a lower IQ compared to someone. Compare yourself to yourself only, not others. Or look up to positive role models. I found reading biographies of people who overcame huge odds very uplifting and motivating.

And some of the seriously handicapped people I have met in my life, they seemed to be the happiest people I have ever met. Sometimes ignorance is bliss I guess. Living a simple life. Less responsibility less stress, more money more problems ;) (be responsible though, I just mean people who are so busy and stressed daily in their lives in a job they hate just to make money, it's illogical).



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22 Aug 2012, 3:57 am

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Think to yourself, "What if I didn't know I had AS?"
You wouldn't think you had a disability if you didn't think you had AS, would you? You would think you're perfectly normal if you didn't think you had AS. So don't think a piece of knowledge can really change your life to make it worthless.

My life has plenty of potential and worth despite the drawbacks. I can live a happy life knowing I have a disability. No one can be perfect.


Hey that's completely wrong. But I'm glad you're enjoying yourself.



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22 Aug 2012, 4:00 am

nominalist wrote:
Autists are no more likely to have intellectual deficits than anyone else.


Scientists have come up with emotional intelligence now.

Early days but I'm sure if they had an emotional intelligence test we'd all be f****d pretty hard.