A lack of adult male presences on WP.

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14 Mar 2013, 4:44 pm

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P.S. when I say adult, I mean living or have lived, on your own for a peroid of 5 years or more.


They're functioning well enough to go live life and not spend time as a regular on a forum of any sort.
I donno, it's strange though.

I mean woman one way or the other have the lower chance of having trouble with their autism.

And many of the long term problems with aspergers don't really rear their ugly head until one enters the working world.



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14 Mar 2013, 4:53 pm

Women don't necessarily have a lower chance of having problems from their autism.

Also, I don't recall encountering more than one other person who appeared to complain about real world observations not matching their demographic assumptions in my entire life. Is this seriously causing you tsuris?



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14 Mar 2013, 4:58 pm

Male, living on my own for 18 years.

One of the first things i learned here was the overwhelming male/female ratio of ASDs was just a myth and is actually more even amongst the genders. But i see that female diagnoses are harder to ascertain due to preconceived gender roles.

And even on here, it is difficult to determine posters' gender unless they explicitly say them. Names can be ambiguous or misleading so i can't go by those.



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14 Mar 2013, 5:00 pm

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Women don't necessarily have a lower chance of having problems from their autism.

Also, I don't recall encountering more than one other person who appeared to complain about real world observations not matching their demographic assumptions in my entire life. Is this seriously causing you tsuris?


You're brave.

I'm not touching this one with a ten-foot pole.

Lately, the "Men have it harder. Boo-hoo!" posts have been making my vomit meter circle back to zero.


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14 Mar 2013, 5:02 pm

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Verdandi wrote:
Women don't necessarily have a lower chance of having problems from their autism.

Also, I don't recall encountering more than one other person who appeared to complain about real world observations not matching their demographic assumptions in my entire life. Is this seriously causing you tsuris?


You're brave.

I'm not touching this one with a ten-foot pole.

Lately, the "Men have it harder. Boo-hoo!" posts have been making my vomit meter circle back to zero.


Only two things make me vomit: Too much alcohol and accidental ingestion of Listerine. I have a strong stomach.



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14 Mar 2013, 5:25 pm

Don't know what makes you think such a thing...
There's lots of us posting here, unless we're busy swilling beer, putting a wrench to an old automobile, smoking expensive cigars, drinking cheap whiskey, or watching young ladies in tight clothing .....


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14 Mar 2013, 5:28 pm

I'd love to chime in, but unfortunately I do not meet the requirements for your definition of an 'adult male', as I've never 'lived on my own' thus far. My dad's an alcoholic who's been unemployed for years, and I'm working as a cleaner; the 2 of us are getting by.

Heck, why'd we stop at 'adult' and 'male'? Why don't we throw in 'white', 'straight', 'Christian', and all the other lowest common denominators to get some representation on this forum for this very, very misunderstood segment of the autistic population?


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14 Mar 2013, 5:43 pm

Expecting people whom have "lived on their own for five years" to come to this forum is ridiculous. If they were able to do that they would have no reason to come here.



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14 Mar 2013, 6:06 pm

Verdandi wrote:
Is this seriously causing you tsuris?


:lol: I love your choice of words.


As someone else said older guys tend to hang out in the PPR forum. Sometimes I feel like the lone lady there *tear drop rolls down face*<<<sarcasm. I never thought of it before but there are some trends as to who spends time in what sub forum on WP. Younger guys and gals seem to frequent random discussion, for another example.



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14 Mar 2013, 6:09 pm

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Expecting people whom have "lived on their own for five years" to come to this forum is ridiculous.


This too....it is a forum for people with a developmental disorder -ASD. Some adults with said disorder can live independently but clearly not all.



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14 Mar 2013, 6:17 pm

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Am I the only one that feels like there's a lack of a adult male presence on this board.


Dunno, but I reckon there is a distinct dearth of other eighty-two year olds :lol:


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14 Mar 2013, 6:22 pm

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I mean woman one way or the other have the lower chance of having trouble with their autism.


:lmao:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt224348.html


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14 Mar 2013, 6:42 pm

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Expecting people whom have "lived on their own for five years" to come to this forum is ridiculous. If they were able to do that they would have no reason to come here.
It's this response along with the fact that atleast 5 of the posters in thread are not in the group were talking about that kind of prooves their's a lack of presence.

There are tones of other issues that tie in to autism that are completely ignored on this site, and obviously part of it is the tone of the site.

For many of the older posters not working isn't an option because they would of(and likely have) ended up homeless for some period of time.

Being able to work isn't some magical paradise. I personally got a serious of repetitive strain injuries on large part because of my large size(6 4), as well the obvious sensation issues.



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14 Mar 2013, 6:42 pm

Well, I think people over the age of 30 or so are less likely in general to use the internet for socialising because they grew up in the pre-internet era. People who are older than me (I'm 31) don't usually seem to "get" the concept at all, and I think older people are more likely to look elsewhere for their support. And because young people are being diagnosed at far a higher rate now and are more likely to use the internet to socialise, it makes sense for them to be the majority.

Also, you may notice that the majority of this forum is made up of people who are either recently diagnosed, questioning, or experiencing some autism-related difficulties in their life. Most people who don't fall into these categories aren't interested in talking about autism - they are getting on with other things. For better or for worse, males tend to be more and earlier diagnosed than females, and so it would be normal to have a disproportionately large number of undiagnosed/questioning/recently diagnosed adult females than males. I think the fact that there are more females here suggests females are actually more likely to have problems with autism (especially regarding its undiagnosis) than males, not less.

Here's another possibility no one has suggested: females tend to have the desire to socialise more (even autistic females) and this forum offers a venue in which to safely do that. The males are all locked in a room with their special interest and have no interest in talking to anybody. :wink:

For the record though, I'm an adult male and I've seen plenty about the place, though as you suggest, not as many as the statistics would suggest. I personally think the statistics often given are outdated and inaccurate.



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14 Mar 2013, 6:59 pm

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Well, I think people over the age of 30 or so are less likely in general to use the internet for socialising because they grew up in the pre-internet era. People who are older than me (I'm 31) don't usually seem to "get" the concept at all, and I think older people are more likely to look elsewhere for their support. And because young people are being diagnosed at far a higher rate now and are more likely to use the internet to socialise, it makes sense for them to be the majority.


Here's another possibility no one has suggested: females tend to have the desire to socialise more (even autistic females) and this forum offers a venue in which to safely do that. The males are all locked in a room with their special interest and have no interest in talking to anybody. :wink:
I donno I hang out on a few forms a the average age on most is around 30-35ish.

Some Message boards really are a strong point for most adult men, because they don't require the social desire that say facebook, or chat lines require.

Again the view that this site is just a stepping stone I think is problematic.

The fact there is almost no content available for us that are past the initial OMG OMG is I think a problem not (its just the way it is).



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14 Mar 2013, 7:12 pm

I have lived independently for 7 years. I am still independent, working, but live at my father's house until next fall to save money. Does that count? I am 31 years old.