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18 Jan 2007, 9:23 pm

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I don't like it, but I use it sometimes because it is shorter than "Person with Asperger Syndrome".


Same here.


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18 Jan 2007, 9:42 pm

I like the "cute" connotation. I also like the fact that few people have heard of the word. Even though Asperger's itself isn't well-known about, chances are that more people will have at least heard of "Asperger's," rather than "Aspie." So, you can talk about it without having people know what you're talking about. That brings in the whole factor that you and other Aspies are in your own little, exclusive club and people want to know what you're talking about. My Aspie friend and I always say things like, "That was so Aspie!" or something. Nobody else has a clue what we mean- and we don't intend on telling them... :lol:
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18 Jan 2007, 9:49 pm

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I've used it a lot here. I like it. Yeah, it IS a cute name, but what is wrong with that?
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Because it is demeaning and patronising.


How do you view it as demeaning? I guess that kind of bleeds into my next question...

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I'm not denying that there are positive things about AS.
Just that there is a difference between being a person with AS and being an 'Aspie'.


What do you view as the difference?

There will ALWAYS be a condescening attitude, at least with many for the forseeable future. People don't even know I have AS, and seem to act condescending. Sometimes I have to laugh. One moment, people seem to act like they don't know if I can handle something(when I first get on the contract), and within the hour coworkers are giving me THEIR work because I do it so well. If I had meltdowns, or flapped, etc... maybe they would treat me with more disdain. Still, even the fact that I am different gives them pause.

SO, I'm trying to see if some of my base talents could appear more savant like. Maybe I can show enough talent to give them pause for ANOTHER reason. 8-)

The best way to get the stigma to go away is to help build your own reputation. If everyone does that, maybe the overall stigma will morph into a badge deserving respect! After all, THAT is why people look to dan akroyd, steve spielberg, albert einstein, and bill gates, and say THEY have AS!

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18 Jan 2007, 10:03 pm

I like it better than Asperger's... which to most people sounds like you're saying ASS BURGERS and then they start laughing.







actually, that is kinda funny now that I think about it.

so yeah, I no problem with the term "Aspie".



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18 Jan 2007, 10:05 pm

It's easier to say and type and anything that's easier for me is what I go with. I've heard of similar terms used like that not related to AS, like Trekie. I'm pretty sure there are others but I can't think of them right now.



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18 Jan 2007, 10:38 pm

It's stupid and trying to be cute, like people with AS are Steven King style ret*ds. Like we're happy little children who should be patted on the head and given a piece of candy when we behave- which we always do, of course.

I've never used the term.



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18 Jan 2007, 10:43 pm

Kosmonaut wrote:
No, i find the term demeaning.
Don't really like labels of any sort.
'Aspie' also sounds ( to me anyway) as if it is something 'cute', which is not really my perception of the condition.
Patronising for sure.


I agree with this. There's no "cutesy" terms for schizophrenia or cancer. It makes it seem less like a problem that you struggle with and more like you think it's some sort of fun secret club.



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18 Jan 2007, 11:32 pm

Veronica wrote:
I like it better than Asperger's... which to most people sounds like you're saying ASS BURGERS and then they start laughing.







actually, that is kinda funny now that I think about it.

so yeah, I no problem with the term "Aspie".


Yes when I was first told I had ASS BURGERS Syndrome, it took me 2 days of saying it over and over again, to myself and out loud, all the while seeing images of ASS BURGERS in my mind. Finally, I seemed to have sorted it out in my mind until finally it settled. When I think the word "Aspie", those images don't come back and I don't feel the need to say it over and over again.



18 Jan 2007, 11:57 pm

Schizophrenias are called "Schizophrenics" I call them "Schizos" because it's quicker to ype than typing the whole word.


I've liked the "Aspie" term since I've seen it in one of Laine Holliday Wlley's books. I do get offended when I find others find the term offensive or dislike it because the term isn't meant to be offensive nor even it is. It was never even made up to offend us in the firts place. It was meant to be a nicer way of saying people who have it. What's next, lets find "aussie" to be an offensive term or "autie" let's find "Montanans" to be offensive. Montanan is a term for people who are from Montana, that's what we're called here. People in Portland, Oregon are known as "Portlanders" so lets call that offensive too.

"Aussie" is a term for Australians and "autie" is a term for people who are autistic.


See my point now of how dumb it is to find the "aspie" term offensive so I pointed out being sarcastic lets find all those other terms offensive too.



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19 Jan 2007, 12:11 am

Mnemosyne wrote:
I agree with this. There's no "cutesy" terms for schizophrenia or cancer. It makes it seem less like a problem that you struggle with and more like you think it's some sort of fun secret club.


What? I thought we were part of a fun secret club! Are you suggesting there is no decoder ring coming in the mail?



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19 Jan 2007, 12:17 am

Kosmonaut wrote:
No, i find the term demeaning.
Don't really like labels of any sort.
'Aspie' also sounds ( to me anyway) as if it is something 'cute', which is not really my perception of the condition.
Patronising for sure.

edit: it's not just another name for Asperger's Syndrome. In the same way people with epilespy, say, are not epileptics. I think there is a big difference.



I don't mind being an epileptic....

and really, with aspergers I don't care what I'm called either, I mean, I'm sure there is that whole "I am not that disease so don't characterize me by it" business, but really, if that's how handle information, okie dokie

people who care about precision can make the descision and I'll tag along



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19 Jan 2007, 12:40 am

OddDuckNash99 wrote:
I like the "cute" connotation. I also like the fact that few people have heard of the word. Even though Asperger's itself isn't well-known about, chances are that more people will have at least heard of "Asperger's," rather than "Aspie." So, you can talk about it without having people know what you're talking about. That brings in the whole factor that you and other Aspies are in your own little, exclusive club and people want to know what you're talking about. My Aspie friend and I always say things like, "That was so Aspie!" or something. Nobody else has a clue what we mean- and we don't intend on telling them... :lol:
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19 Jan 2007, 1:07 am

It reminds me of "Espie" which is rather cool, imho. :D



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19 Jan 2007, 11:12 am

Personally I do not like it very much at all, and I will never use it as a descriptive term. I just think it sounds somewhat... stupid.



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19 Jan 2007, 12:04 pm

Quest_techie wrote:


I don't mind being an epileptic....



How would you feel, say, if you were introduced to somebody by the words, "This is ...., she's an epileptic."
Fortunately i do not have epilepsy, but i would imagine that i would find this offensive.
In fact, i know a few people with epilepsy, some would never describe themselves as epileptic.

Similarly, this is the same difference between being a person with AS and an 'Aspie.'


Like someone in a wheelchair. Do you see the person first or the wheelchair?



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19 Jan 2007, 12:15 pm

likedcalico wrote:

See my point now of how dumb it is to find the "aspie" term offensive so I pointed out being sarcastic lets find all those other terms offensive too.


No i dont.
You cannot make meaningful conclusions from allegory, your example is completely invalid.
Eg. Someone calls a Nigerian resident a n****r. Is this offensive or not? Well, of course, it depends.
It is not a question of semantics.