Avoid this depression trap

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Don't tell me what matters to me.

Seriously? Why do people have to try and prove which animal is more intelligent? Both animals are intelligent in their own ways.

My cat is very social and although I have a lot of pride I don't think that's why I fail socially.

I like learning and sharing information I know but I also like generating new ideas from what I hear. And it all breaks down when people 1) refuse to listen, 2) have a different opinion or 3) are completely impossible to relate to even though they think they are.

I'm always destined to fail socially.

I always must argue. Always.

I have another cat that is an absolute anxious nut. Just like her mama.

That's the biggest problem I have with the working world, especially lower wage work environments, is the pack mentality.
You are part of a "team", and there is a rigid social order, with serious consequences if you step out of line and act independently.

It's because NT's don't have the confidence to go it alone, so when they see someone who does it makes them jealous and afraid of their own insecurities.

I'm so much in doubt about that. I mean, whether it's true or not. It's seems true, but on the other hand I think it's just got a lot to do with that person breaking the social hierarchy, thereby the pack, which (often) means everything to an NT.

I'm sure we could spend umpteen pages arguing about cats and dogs, but I'll just note I can see great similarities with cats here too. They get excited over their special interests (getting into boxes, other forms of claustrophilia, seeking out high perches), overwhelmed by feelings they can't quite express (running around the house, playfighting unpredictably), dunno about stimming but something like washing might work, picky eaters doesn't even require a specific example... liking routine, oh yes. Like one of my mother's toms. He goes WAA WAA WHERE ARE MY HUMANS if they don't go to bed for him to cuddle up with around the usual bedtime.

It all depends on perspective, I suppose. Some aspies like cats, some like dogs, some prefer entirely different species.

This might cast some light on whether aspies are more similar to cats or dogs:

You feel that way, because of your integrity/pride - neurotypicals on the other hand (often) love to be told what should matter to them through their social surroundings!

i aint no cat, i'm a talking mongoose

I'm not sure I believe that NTs get excited (in the child-like manner we do) about sports, fashion, discotheques, shows, etc. I think if you ask many of them, and they're really honest with themselves, they'll say it's just something they take up to feel they belong.













don't last long

True words. NTs don't have child-like excitement. Their motivation is the pack - sports, fashion, discotheques, shows, etc. are interesting because it makes them feel they belong to and are accepted by the pack.

That explains why AS-people are often not interested in those things to the same extent. AS-people's motivation is their pride/integrity, not the pack.

Last edited by qawer on 06 Nov 2013, 3:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Nowadays it's very challenging for me to type, as I have a 3-month old kitten who won't let me and deletes parts of my posts. I had written: This is why celebs don't last long and novelty is required so much - it's because there's no genuine, child-like interest in them.

I'm glad the kitten is now too sleepy to jump onto the keyboard.

As to whether it's envy or feeling threatened by individuality, after analysing it for many years I think it's both.

So we judge dogs and cats by how many human words they learn? Fascinating.

Don't you know, speech and the ability to communicate understandably with those who specifically are using speech to communicate is entirely what intelligence is based on, nothing else </sarcasm>

Aw... I feel so sorry for Autistic dogs...

they fit in nowhere