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16 Nov 2013, 3:41 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
I'm completely confused now. By trans did you mean transgender or is that short for something else? I'm asking because I don't understand what that's got to do with being rude to somebody in a wheelchair. Is it short for something to do with that? I'm not being ugly here, I'm seriously confused, because being rude is being rude no matter who you are. That shouldn't have been said at all in a mean context.


Sorry. By trans I meant transgender/transsexual.



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16 Nov 2013, 3:51 am

beneficii wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
I'm completely confused now. By trans did you mean transgender or is that short for something else? I'm asking because I don't understand what that's got to do with being rude to somebody in a wheelchair. Is it short for something to do with that? I'm not being ugly here, I'm seriously confused, because being rude is being rude no matter who you are. That shouldn't have been said at all in a mean context.


Sorry. By trans I meant transgender/transsexual.


That's what I thought you meant but because you mentioned it in the post about the wheelchair I was thinking there might be some new term about transportation or something.

The only time that I can ever imagine that being said to somebody in a wheelchair and the person being serious when they say it is if it's somebody in there for a short term like healing from an injury and it's the physical therapist trying to make them do their PT, but that's obviously not the situation.



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16 Nov 2013, 2:47 pm

OOM,

Thanks. :)

I tried starting a discussion about this issue on the subreddit, /r/trans, here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/trans/comments/ ... community/

It was to an extent an expression of anger, based on the crap I've heard come from people in the trans community.

It was removed from the front page, so I responded with a nicer post that attempted to address the issue:

http://www.reddit.com/r/trans/comments/ ... l_but_are/

It was also removed from the front page, this time on account of my seeming "to be eager to crucify the trans community for something we are not in any way responsible for." I continued the discussion with the moderator in question, referring to the fact that people who are mentally disabled and trans often feel alienated from the trans community, and suggesting that there were some things the trans community could do to help; and not even with money, but with other material support. The moderator responded to that with, "But if you want to rail against the trans community, do it somewhere else. Banned."

I simply do not like engaging within the trans community, and it's for crud like this.



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16 Nov 2013, 7:34 pm

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
Wow. Sounds like a possible case of a transwoman who spent too much time living life as an upper class white guy. "Disability is *real*? It's not just moochers faking it for pity and welfare? OMG!"


This sounds like a possible case of a cis man finding an excuse to misgender a trans woman. As if trans women only engage in bad or oppressive behavior because of assumptions about their gender history.

I have heard cis women - feminists - say similar or worse ableist things. a trans woman is a woman, not someone you get to call a guy because they did something you disapprove of.