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01 Mar 2007, 6:05 pm

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It is interesting because speaking fluently that young is atypical in Child Psychology.


Yeah, and she said I was doing pretty involved puzzles when I was 2! Man, I had NO idea that I was so ahead of average so early. If I had known, I could maybe have used it as evidence that I should have been given harder work. Maybe I could have ENJOYED school.

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01 Mar 2007, 6:07 pm

I was in Special Education, I know what you mean! :(


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01 Mar 2007, 6:24 pm

WOW, the term "special education" COULD be taken two ways, although it is usually bad. NO, I was in a normal private school. The thing is that I could have handled the 3rd grade work in first grade. In fact, I could EASILY have handled 10th grade work in some areas. Even in 4th grade, *I* was the guy everyone asked for help. Some classes in highschool were BORING to me, and I knew more than the teacher with NO formal training! Some COLLEGE stuff was stuff where I knew more than the department head with NO formal training. Even at my JOB I am the goto guy. I'll leave you to guess what I might have said here. 8-)

The thing I hate is that I found the easy stuff boring, and not all was easy. FOR EXAMPLE..... I could have SKIPPED the early reading and english classes, and could have taken math and spanish instead. And that is one reason I HATE the educational system here!

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01 Mar 2007, 11:43 pm

I'm very interested in this baby talking thing. I saw a video on america's funniest video's years back of a 3 month old who said "i love you". I read that the main reason babies can't talk is because they don't have the motor coordination in their tongue and lips. Young infants (even normals ones) are actually being found to be much more intelligent than we ever thought and probably understand what we're saying to them. However, if it truly is oral motor skills which are keeping babies form forming words, I wonder how is it that aspies, traditionally with poor motor skills, are often the early talkers?

What were your other fine motor skills like when you began talking?



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02 Mar 2007, 12:32 am

I didn't talk at all until I was 2. Weird thing was, I had somehow already learned how to read, something that was discovered right after I started talking.



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02 Mar 2007, 6:27 am

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I'm very interested in this baby talking thing. I saw a video on america's funniest video's years back of a 3 month old who said "i love you". I read that the main reason babies can't talk is because they don't have the motor coordination in their tongue and lips. Young infants (even normals ones) are actually being found to be much more intelligent than we ever thought and probably understand what we're saying to them. However, if it truly is oral motor skills which are keeping babies form forming words, I wonder how is it that aspies, traditionally with poor motor skills, are often the early talkers?

What were your other fine motor skills like when you began talking?


Well, ANY 3 month old could probably say I love you. The trick is meaningful speech that is understood by the SPEAKER. You can't tell much by one sentence like that. As for motor skiils and coordination, I don't think it is necessarily that bad, etc... I CAN move my hands very precisely and slowly. HECK, I laughed at the idea that girls were so much better at some things, like this, than boys, because *I* didn't have such problems.

I ALSO have good hand/eye coordination if I call the shots. Things like jumping jacks, or catching is another story. I used to rationalize that that was because I had to do that(Most others have a friend or a father to help), and I wasn't interested in sports. Maybe it IS AS. BTW motor skills themselves DON'T affect gross language acquisition. Kids that have such problems merely mispronounce words, have lisps, or something similar.

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02 Mar 2007, 10:21 am

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Well, ANY 3 month old could probably say I love you.


Well, the fact is that they can't.

What would be interesting to know is if those infants who spoke words at 3 and 4 months old also has other fine motor skills atypical for their age, such as the pincher grasp, which is usually seen at 1 year of age.



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02 Mar 2007, 10:41 am

ooohprettycolors wrote:
I'm very interested in this baby talking thing. I saw a video on america's funniest video's years back of a 3 month old who said "i love you". I read that the main reason babies can't talk is because they don't have the motor coordination in their tongue and lips. Young infants (even normals ones) are actually being found to be much more intelligent than we ever thought and probably understand what we're saying to them. However, if it truly is oral motor skills which are keeping babies form forming words, I wonder how is it that aspies, traditionally with poor motor skills, are often the early talkers?

What were your other fine motor skills like when you began talking?


My hand motor skills were/are terrible. I think the reason I could speak is because my motor coordination was predominately wired to speech, where fewer pathways were connected to my hands and feet.

That is my hypothesis.


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02 Mar 2007, 10:56 am

ooohprettycolors wrote:
SteveK wrote:
Well, ANY 3 month old could probably say I love you.


Well, the fact is that they can't.

What would be interesting to know is if those infants who spoke words at 3 and 4 months old also has other fine motor skills atypical for their age, such as the pincher grasp, which is usually seen at 1 year of age.


Milestones say making sounds at 1 month, imitating by 4 months. SO, if you REALLY wanted to you could probably get your kid to say I love you by 4months. Of course, they probably wouldn't understand it.

BTW http://www.webmd.com/parenting/guide/is ... y-on-track says TWO WORD sentences by 2 years! WOW, there isn't much you can say in 2 words! My mother told me one sentence I said before 18 months, and it had FIVE words. I said "My daddy will come back.". You KNOW I HAD to be young! I NEVER remember using the word daddy!

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02 Mar 2007, 11:00 am

I couldn't speak proper sentences until I was 4 :?



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02 Mar 2007, 4:38 pm

I could perform and read (understand) calculations before I could speak.
When I did begin to speak (before I was a year old) I went straight into full sentence use. My first word was simply 'Hello' and my first topics of conversation involved dinosaurs and numbers, which evolved into archaeology and maths at around two years.
I have Asperger's but my motor-skills are superior even in comparison to NT's.



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02 Mar 2007, 6:01 pm

I thought pincer grasp was a 9 month milestone? All 3 of mine did it around 8 mos or sooner.

As for babies being intelligent and understanding, I believe it. My now 7 year old described the experience of crawling down a hallway and pushing open the bathroom door to find me. He was 9 mos old when we moved out of the apartment where the bathroom was at the end of the hall like that. And he walked at a year, so remembering crawling is pretty amazing as well.



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02 Mar 2007, 6:52 pm

I couldn't talk until I was 3 years old.



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02 Mar 2007, 7:47 pm

I said one full sentence, perfectly clearly, in a fit of rage at about 6 months, then promply shut up and didn't speak again until I was 3. 8O


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02 Mar 2007, 11:08 pm

I could not talk until I was 4 and I was an extreme quiet baby. I didn't even cry much



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03 Mar 2007, 6:05 am

I didn't babble and coo much and said my first word at 12, 13 months. My mom says she can't remember which word it was, because in the following days and weeks, my vocabulary was growing fast. No idea if she remembers correctly though.