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04 Mar 2007, 4:08 pm

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Yeah, unified theory I think is the way to go. In fact this is just theory, but I suspect that there may even be some truth to misconcepted religions, in that theyr all connected, they all taught the same message in fact (just delivered differently), jesus, buddha, muhammad, krishna, moses..... I think we might have all been put here by far advanced aliens, and all the "miracles" were advanced technology waaaaayyyyy beyond us.
Similar to if you wandered into a tribal civilization in the middle of the rain forrest, and they've never seen modern technology, but you break out a lap top in front of them, they'll go onto explain it in mythological talk because it's the only way they know how to explain it, it clearly blew their minds.
However I do suspect that if this is true, that atleast some of the aliens are bad (some might be good though). If you trace the history of the illuminati back it goes to ancient egypt, birth place of masonic magic.... Ever notice the similarities between sphinx and face on mars? and the pyramids on mars, and in egypt? Also there are Aztec pyramids (I believe it was the aztecs). But back to egypt, the pyramids and sphinx were likely constructed by jewish slaves working with alien technology. Hell back in those days they probably openly worshipped the aliens. I think there is a hidden riddle there written in the bible. The aliens bred with their jewish slaves to create the bloodline of the illuminati as their ambassadors here on earth.
I'd like to add though that anyone who scoffs at the possibility of 1984 "conspiracy theories" doesn't know much about sociology or genetics. Or history for that matter. But all the stuff I stated above is just theory, it's by no means prooven. It's just what I find makes since.


well the echolon server has got this forum down pat.... actually is a common fallacy that the Jews built the Pyramids - yes the Bible is insync, and yeah a proprtion of the people called the .... uh I forgot ... probably came from there and many have done archeolical stuff to prove it..... but one tribe of say max 100 000 people (most probably less than 1000-5000) which were those that exodused across the nile is not enough to build the pyraimds,,, which has also been dated at what seems to be now upto and over 20000 years old.. The aficans built the pyramids.


Anyway back to the topic --again I am sorry If there seems to be a disposition to this thread being politacally incorrect.....

--Apsies and Body language.... there are many aspies which believe that they have a higher acueity to rread body language.. so much so that they may not even need to talk - os the theory is, if you put two aspies in a car, and only one knew the way, would the aspie descirbe in words the route, or would he just gesture his intent to the driver.? - I had an Apie friend (well now I know he was aspie) when I was in the pssenger seat and I couldn't be stuffed talking (or as freind we had an agreeable body language, therfore found it useless to talk) so I would just point, usually only very subtly, hardly even at all - when I needed to say turn the second street on the right, I would go . with my fingers,,, right, two, thumb(go) - is this an evolutionary path to ESP? via the mind?



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04 Mar 2007, 4:10 pm

Yeah, I'd have to agree with Steve on this one. DS is more of a disability, and that's ok I'm not judging them for something that trivial, I used to take up for a kid with down syndrome. Autism, however, is a spectrum disorder. While there are different functioning levels with DS, it provides no advantages to equalize their abilities in any type of way. Aspies and HF auties are often very intellectually briliant people. I think the jews were the last stage in evolution and we aspies may very well be the next. So a jewish aspie would probably statistically be very high on the evolutionary chain compared to most around them. However, many great philosophies have came from east asia too, but asian cultures are often very contrapted into traditions and norms despite superior philosophies. Evolution doesn't fall on color-based racial lines though, the jews were technically white but they intergred with people all over the world now. For many years they were pure bred, people evolve faster through pure breeding. So when they interbred perhaps this may have something to do with autism? I dunno, it's just a theory I'll have to do some studying on.



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04 Mar 2007, 4:14 pm

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Yeah, unified theory I think is the way to go. In fact this is just theory, but I suspect that there may even be some truth to misconcepted religions, in that theyr all connected, they all taught the same message in fact (just delivered differently), jesus, buddha, muhammad, krishna, moses..... I think we might have all been put here by far advanced aliens, and all the "miracles" were advanced technology waaaaayyyyy beyond us.
Similar to if you wandered into a tribal civilization in the middle of the rain forrest, and they've never seen modern technology, but you break out a lap top in front of them, they'll go onto explain it in mythological talk because it's the only way they know how to explain it, it clearly blew their minds.
However I do suspect that if this is true, that atleast some of the aliens are bad (some might be good though). If you trace the history of the illuminati back it goes to ancient egypt, birth place of masonic magic.... Ever notice the similarities between sphinx and face on mars? and the pyramids on mars, and in egypt? Also there are Aztec pyramids (I believe it was the aztecs). But back to egypt, the pyramids and sphinx were likely constructed by jewish slaves working with alien technology. Hell back in those days they probably openly worshipped the aliens. I think there is a hidden riddle there written in the bible. The aliens bred with their jewish slaves to create the bloodline of the illuminati as their ambassadors here on earth.
I'd like to add though that anyone who scoffs at the possibility of 1984 "conspiracy theories" doesn't know much about sociology or genetics. Or history for that matter. But all the stuff I stated above is just theory, it's by no means prooven. It's just what I find makes since.


well the echolon server has got this forum down pat.... actually is a common fallacy that the Jews built the Pyramids - yes the Bible is insync, and yeah a proprtion of the people called the .... uh I forgot ... probably came from there and many have done archeolical stuff to prove it..... but one tribe of say max 100 000 people (most probably less than 1000-5000) which were those that exodused across the nile is not enough to build the pyraimds,,, which has also been dated at what seems to be now upto and over 20000 years old.. The aficans built the pyramids.


Anyway back to the topic --again I am sorry If there seems to be a disposition to this thread being politacally incorrect.....

--Apsies and Body language.... there are many aspies which believe that they have a higher acueity to rread body language.. so much so that they may not even need to talk - os the theory is, if you put two aspies in a car, and only one knew the way, would the aspie descirbe in words the route, or would he just gesture his intent to the driver.? - I had an Apie friend (well now I know he was aspie) when I was in the pssenger seat and I couldn't be stuffed talking (or as freind we had an agreeable body language, therfore found it useless to talk) so I would just point, usually only very subtly, hardly even at all - when I needed to say turn the second street on the right, I would go . with my fingers,,, right, two, thumb(go) - is this an evolutionary path to ESP? via the mind?


I have heard rumors that autistics have hightened telepathic and telekentic abilities. However, telepathy would be grossly intrusive, and I would not recommend it as a positive characteristic. Peoples' private thoughts must remain private, unless they are a danger to society.



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04 Mar 2007, 4:29 pm

For those that are offended by the DOWN SYNDROME REMARK....

If a genetic disorder is a disorder - who's to say that if everone had the disorder that it would be one..... it the isorder made the human more adept at being stronger and bigger in a cave man environment yet only live for half the life span of the normal geneticly disposed.... and if these 'mutants' killed all the normal people - than are the genetically disordered people now still disordered - or ar they now the norm.


yes I see tharguments.....

Many of us carry the gene to disorder X ,and it's a mistake in nature when it gets switched/misplaced/omitted/rewired .... well the 'disorder' made it through the gene diversity that makes up humanity though 'mistakes' therby providing, avenues for evolutionary paths/combinations.
-If all males were to die tommorow from some virus.... females may resort to copulation with apes ... with any luck an ape may spawn an ape-child .... what I'm trying to get at is that Autism - because we don't know the physical attributes for it's existance, doesn't nullifiy the fact that disorders which have an atributable cause should be ommited from the 'THOUGHT EXPERIMENT' -I am leaving any discussion open to the fact that all so called 'disorder' which are different to the norm have a place in eveolution ... even things like being aswexual (hich I have read is also an Apie trait)



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04 Mar 2007, 4:32 pm

I don't know if it's ESP or mere darwanism. Most aspies want to be liked, (okay, I'm being general here) however, look at Mozart and the whale. So, we learn at an early age to read body language....either so we can be liked or that we aren't pummelled.

However, reading body language takes intense concentration and we can't read a whole group at once. That's why we get easily tired of groups.

ESP? I do believe in electrical energy. I also had a dream of 9-11 before it happened; however, my dream was very specific on how 9-11 affected my community. So, I didn't know what was going to happen...only that a big bomb off on the horizon was going to happen. And it came true.

I believe in psychic energy; however, I also believe in God. So, I"m very careful becusae the negative of that is evil. So, I believe more in angels that take care of me.

All I can say is "Thank you, Lord...for letting me be born and live in a place where I can believe in Him/It/Her and write on this web my personal thoughts. And not get shot for doing so."



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04 Mar 2007, 5:10 pm

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I think the jews were the last stage in evolution and we aspies may very well be the next. So a jewish aspie would probably statistically be very high on the evolutionary chain compared to most around them. However, many great philosophies have came from east asia too, but asian cultures are often very contrapted into traditions and norms despite superior philosophies. Evolution doesn't fall on color-based racial lines though, the jews were technically white but they intergred with people all over the world now. For many years they were pure bred, people evolve faster through pure breeding. So when they interbred perhaps this may have something to do with autism? I dunno, it's just a theory I'll have to do some studying on.


WOW, this is the FIRST time I ever heard Jewish people(or more appropriately hebrew) people were high on the evolutionary scale, outside of Jewish people and maybe some Christians, let alone THE high point. Even disregarding that, everything else you said is WRONG! Jewish people tend to see Jewish(religion) as Jewish(people). That means that some more "pure breds" COULDN'T marry, and "mongrels" COULD! HECK, they speak of abraham, Isacc, Jacob. Jacob was the FIRST to be considered jewish! In fact, he was renamed Israel, and settled in Israel! His FATHERS BROTHER was EGYPTIAN! They had sex with slaves who were NOT jewish.(Like abraham did) Do you need any more proof that they did not hold to the command not to marry gentiles? How about the book of Esther? THEN, there was WWII which was like Esther in REVERSE! So nobody can really be sure if they have Jewish blood or not.

BTW I would be glad to here about ways in which you think they are superior to everyone else.

Your theory is all wet!

As far as DS people having Autism, yeah, it's possible, certainly. But one is probably not because of the other, and most DS people don't have autism.

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04 Mar 2007, 5:13 pm

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04 Mar 2007, 8:09 pm

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I think the jews were the last stage in evolution and we aspies may very well be the next. So a jewish aspie would probably statistically be very high on the evolutionary chain compared to most around them. However, many great philosophies have came from east asia too, but asian cultures are often very contrapted into traditions and norms despite superior philosophies. Evolution doesn't fall on color-based racial lines though, the jews were technically white but they intergred with people all over the world now. For many years they were pure bred, people evolve faster through pure breeding. So when they interbred perhaps this may have something to do with autism? I dunno, it's just a theory I'll have to do some studying on.


WOW, this is the FIRST time I ever heard Jewish people(or more appropriately hebrew) people were high on the evolutionary scale, outside of Jewish people and maybe some Christians, let alone THE high point. Even disregarding that, everything else you said is WRONG! Jewish people tend to see Jewish(religion) as Jewish(people). That means that some more "pure breds" COULDN'T marry, and "mongrels" COULD! HECK, they speak of abraham, Isacc, Jacob. Jacob was the FIRST to be considered jewish! In fact, he was renamed Israel, and settled in Israel! His FATHERS BROTHER was EGYPTIAN! They had sex with slaves who were NOT jewish.(Like abraham did) Do you need any more proof that they did not hold to the command not to marry gentiles? How about the book of Esther? THEN, there was WWII which was like Esther in REVERSE! So nobody can really be sure if they have Jewish blood or not.

BTW I would be glad to here about ways in which you think they are superior to everyone else.

Your theory is all wet!

As far as DS people having Autism, yeah, it's possible, certainly. But one is probably not because of the other, and most DS people don't have autism.

Steve


Dude stop getting all f*****g defensive, I stated it was pure theory, I never tried to state it as solid fact. It's something I'm just beginning to look into. Maybe I don't have all the facts yet but I'm working on it. Besides, there are atheist jews, judaism isn't just a religion there is a jewish bloodline and history. Einstein was an atheist jew, and very likely an aspie.



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04 Mar 2007, 8:23 pm

People with Down Syndrome are generally very sociable but have poor analytical skills.
From my understanding, people with AS are terrible with social skills, but compensate with good logic and memory.
The two seem almost to be polar opposites.
To make comparisons between 'AS' and 'DS' is completely futile, it's like chalk and cheese.

edit: I have just read MishLuvsHer2Boys remark about people with Down Syndrome also having Autism. I must say that these people must be completely f****d and live in a constant hell.
But i think they must be a very rare breed.



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04 Mar 2007, 8:50 pm

A lady that posts on a parenting a child with ASD board that I frequent has a child with DS and Autism and the little one is still a lovely child.



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04 Mar 2007, 9:01 pm

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Dude stop getting all f***ing defensive, I stated it was pure theory, I never tried to state it as solid fact. It's something I'm just beginning to look into. Maybe I don't have all the facts yet but I'm working on it. Besides, there are atheist jews, judaism isn't just a religion there is a jewish bloodline and history. Einstein was an atheist jew, and very likely an aspie.


GEE, it was the first time I made a comment like that here, and I wasn't being defensive. I just thought what the... Actually, it IS hebrew. I agree with you about Einstein, but you can't just say one guy is from one family, and is a certain way so all people that are that way are from that family. It's especially odd since the slave treatment, desire, resentment, and esthers acts caused non jews to marry jews(And be recorded as jewish), and the WWII treatment caused jewish people to get recorded as non-jewish, and many of them married outside.

As for defensive, you can stop with the bad language.

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04 Mar 2007, 9:04 pm

Dang tin-hatters.


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04 Mar 2007, 9:16 pm

Flagg wrote:
Dang tin-hatters.


I assume you are talking about the steriotypical view of conspiracy theorists believing that the one world government is reading minds and can be stopped by wearing a hat made of "tin" foil?

FUNNY. :lol:

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04 Mar 2007, 9:31 pm

SteveK wrote:
Flagg wrote:
Dang tin-hatters.


I assume you are talking about the steriotypical view of conspiracy theorists believing that the one world government is reading minds and can be stopped by wearing a hat made of "tin" foil?

FUNNY. :lol:

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