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Erlyrisa
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15 Mar 2007, 1:40 am

The feather of course!!

...by understanding your opposite, and becoming him, you can bring him into the group.... ineffect ,you have to take the risk of scrificing your apparent stance within the group to help bring the arse in, so that everyone can enjoy his/her arroma.

-Have you tried Dragon Jiuce Yet?


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15 Mar 2007, 1:47 am

EXAMPLE

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Dude...it is spelled "Asperger's". Get it right,please. *is annoyed*


-SpaceCase


Your right, he shouldn't such derigitory terms.

Reaction from group...of NT's may actually be to agree with the both of us


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15 Mar 2007, 1:50 am

But now your the arse!!

so the best technique is to be able to integrate all opion/feeling.


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15 Mar 2007, 2:10 am

The ass cannot be purged but by water and quicklime.



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15 Mar 2007, 2:12 am

calandale wrote:
The ass cannot be purged but by water and quicklime.


And in the right mixture, the scent is almost non-existant!


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15 Mar 2007, 3:29 am

I dont think its right to do a non-NT v NT thing. Im not saying that it doesnt make some sense, just it doesnt further things. This world is being ripped apart right now by factionalism. If the ultimate spiritual goal is to learn to come together as one people, coming up with new dividers doesnt help.

Having said that, f****n NT's are driving me crazy at the moment. And what is with all this eye communication they do. Forgot how to talk did they? :(


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15 Mar 2007, 7:09 am

It's very weird but NTs are afraid to look at me. I've never had any trouble cheerfully looking straight at anybody but it scares peoples. Actually lately I don't make as much eye contact because NTs are beginning to be repulsive to me and I don't want their vibes.

It's not so much an NT vs AS stance but this attitude is the newly aware AS me finally putting a finger on a labeling with relief the overwhelming difference between me and most people, which has always completely baffled me but now is making much more sense as I read about Asperger characteristics.

I have to find a way to survive being happy being me, and not letting the NT turkey bastards get me down, and this is part of the process.



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15 Mar 2007, 7:10 am

Erlyrisa, I agree with your wisdom.



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15 Mar 2007, 10:53 am

Cascadians wrote:


I have to find a way to survive being happy being me, and not letting the NT turkey bastards get me down, and this is part of the process.


I have a feeling that NT's will someday realize that many of the great minds they hold in respect were aspie's. When that happens, things will change. Till then we fight a culture that has been so manipulated, so distorted, that finding sanity within it is going to be tough. And most NTs are probably just following a carrot that leads no where, and will need help coming back to reality. 8)


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15 Mar 2007, 4:36 pm

NoCriminalIntent wrote:
Cascadians wrote:


I have to find a way to survive being happy being me, and not letting the NT turkey bastards get me down, and this is part of the process.


I have a feeling that NT's will someday realize that many of the great minds they hold in respect were aspie's. When that happens, things will change. Till then we fight a culture that has been so manipulated, so distorted, that finding sanity within it is going to be tough. And most NTs are probably just following a carrot that leads no where, and will need help coming back to reality. 8)


Sometimes I just have to grit my teeth and brave it. Read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. In it she describes
how it is the solitary driven individuals who carry the world and keep it alive. As for NT jerks here is a book
you should give them!!
http://www.lindsaybks.com/bks7/extr/index.html



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16 Mar 2007, 11:22 am

I also believe it is those who march to a different drummer, often by necessity in solitude, who have time and space to think deeply and see things in new light, and make the advances, discoveries, and inventions by which mankind leaps forward.

Therefore the AssPurger Effect described in the first post is invaluable because it weeds out those who would waste our time and distract us with their petty spites.



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16 Mar 2007, 2:19 pm

It's a pun, apropo play on words, spoof, satire, totally on-purpose spelling out exactly how an AS presence flushes the $#!+ out of defective mean bullying NTs.

First post very exactly explains the oh-so-perfectly-apt spelling and truth!



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16 Mar 2007, 3:02 pm

Cascadians wrote:
I also believe it is those who march to a different drummer, often by necessity in solitude, who have time and space to think deeply and see things in new light, and make the advances, discoveries, and inventions by which mankind leaps forward.

Therefore the AssPurger Effect described in the first post is invaluable because it weeds out those who would waste our time and distract us with their petty spites.


One of the worst forms mental abuse I received from those in authority above me was compelling me to
give an opinion or act as a "witness" or "advocate" for that person, regardless if he or she was right or wrong.
This caused more conflict between my peers and myself. And then there were the peer pressure tactics
employed by other teachers. This only generated more petty conflicts. Only in solitude could I function
let alone find peace.
If you don't have the time to read "Atlas Shrugged", try "Anthem". It is a novella that can be read in
one night
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthem_%28novel%29.

By the way I like your pun "AssPurger". Some people do need a mental enema or "moronic colonic".



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16 Mar 2007, 8:46 pm

Hot Damn, Viet Nam!

I loved it, I have lived it! I, a proud AssPurger!

Thanx mucho!


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16 Mar 2007, 9:59 pm

Hi Nutbag, welcome to the club, fellow AssPurger (shakes hand enthusiastically) !

As an AssPurger you are invaluable to Human Resources Depts everywhere! Soon they will realize this and begin hiring AssPurgers for big fat consulting fees (we'll all get rich) to vet out the jerks, bullies, creeps and a**holes in corporate culture.

Richie, I did read Atlas Shrugged decades ago, and really liked it, don't remember much about it now though. Your "MORONIC COLONIC" is brilliant! LOL
Yes, what you describe is definitely abuse. We must be free to speak the truth even if some ppl prefer sugarcoated lies.

Folks, check this out: businesses NEED AssPurgers to take care of this increasing problem:

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AP, by Ellen Simon, 3/15/07

'Jerk poisoning' can be lethal for companies, prof says

A Q&A with Robert I. Sutton, author of bad bosses book

If you've worked for long, you've probably had a boss or co-worker who was a complete, flaming jerk.

Maybe she always scowled as if she smelled something bad while reviewing your work. Maybe he never missed a chance to berate you in front of others. Or he interrupted constantly when you were talking. Or sneaked up behind you at your desk. Or helped himself to your food.

Robert I. Sutton, a professor of management science and engineering at Stanford Engineering School, has heard it all while working on his recently released best seller, "The No A——— Rule."

The book grew from a piece he wrote for The Harvard Business Review in 2004 under the headline, "More Trouble than They're Worth." The piece, he said, inspired an outpouring of jerk-boss e-mails from around the world. His correspondents included the manager of a roofing company, the CEO of a money management firm and a researcher for the Supreme Court.

Since the book came out, he said he gets at least 15 e-mails a day from people with horrible bosses.

"I feel like Dr. Phil," the talk-show therapist, he said.

He argues that companies should screen for jerks as they hire and purge the bullies already in their ranks because, in almost all cases, they cost more than they contribute.

One of his other solutions may deflate anyone who works for a jerk: Leave the job.

If that's not possible, he suggests checking out emotionally. "Passion is an overrated virtue in organizational life, and indifference is an underrated virtue," he wrote.

The AP interviewed Sutton, who describes workplace monsters with a mild explicative, which haeen changed here to "jerk." Excerpts:

Q: First, let's define who we're talking about. You define work jerks as people who pick on those beneath them and leave others feeling belittled and sapped of energy. What are some other signs?

A: To me, the main sign of someone who's a certified jerk is someone who leaves a trail of people feeling demeaned and de-energized. It tends to be more often associated with power dynamics — they kiss-up to those above them and kick down those beneath them. About a third of the time, bullying is peer on peer.

Q: Since workplace jerks tend to pick on people below them, how can the victims, who usually don't have much power, fix the problem?

A: In normal organizational life, for people who have less power, the best thing is to get out. If you can't do that, try to avoid to contact with the person as much as possible. You can also learn not to care.

The other thing is to find little ways to get control and fight back. One woman whose boss was always stealing her food reshaped Ex-Lax to look like candy, then her boss stole it.

My favorite story comes from a former CEO who told me about her worst board member. When he'd call and scream, she'd lean back in her chair, put her feet on the desk, put him on speakerphone, turn off the volume and do her nails. She would check in from time to time to see if he was still screaming. When he was done; she would reason with him. She put herself in a relaxed position and did something she could control — her nails.

Q: You describe ways to screen for jerks, such as Southwest Airlines Co.'s refusal to hire a pilot who was rude to a company secretary and Virgin Group Ltd. founder Richard Branson's ruse on his reality show, in which he picked up contestants while disguised as an arthritic old driver and ejected the two who treated him poorly. How else can an organization separate the monsters from the rest?

A: In fields where there is relatively small and tight networks, people get reputations that are deserved. In my field of academia, we know each other. There are excellent scholars who are not considered because no one wants to work with them.

My caveat is, screening helps, but having a powerful culture is more important. Jerky behavior is incredibly contagious.

Q: Is there such a thing as a sick organization? Can a workplace grow jerks?

A: Some organizations are sicker than others. Exhibit One is Hollywood. I have a cousin who works in the industry. I asked her to name the nice people in Hollywood and there was this long pause, and she eventually named Steven Spielberg and Danny DeVito.

Maybe the worst occupation is doctors. Based on studies, as far as a high rate of abuse, nurses really have a brutal time. Ninety percent of nurses report six to 12 incidents of verbal and emotional abuse per year.

Q: You suggest companies perform an audit, quantifying in dollar figures how much a jerk's poor behavior costs. Then you give an example of a company that did, and figured one salesman's bad behavior had cost it $160,000 in a year. Instead of firing him, the company took about $100,000 out of his bonus. Can you tell us about a company that purged its jerks instead?

A: I can't name the company, but it was a Fortune 500 retailer. As part of a turnaround, the new CEO came up with a mafia-style hit-list of 25 of the biggest jerks. He wanted to get rid of them all at once, but human resources said, "Let's get rid of them through the performance evaluation process."

The company did and my informant said you could see, even at the store level, less nastiness.

Q: One of your solutions to workplace jerks seems to be to stop hiring them. Other solutions include giving referees at youth soccer matches the power to "red card" abusive parents and eject them from the game and shaming jerks when they behave poorly. What do you consider your top solution to the problem of jerky behavior?

A: First thing: I believe that some polite self-awareness helps. There's a test you can take; we put this on Guy Kawasaki's blog, http://electricpulp.com/guykawasaki/arse/.

Second, there should be consequences. People should know it's not efficient and it's going to cost them. My wife is a lawyer. She said with the more aggressive attorneys at her firm, in compensation discussions with them, the partners tell them they should cool it a little bit or it will cost them.

This is something that gets to how you design an organization. Jerk poisoning is a contagious disease. It's something you get and give to others.