Are aspies perpetually lonely?
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Mostly it's OK, but I think there's something about my autistic mindset that will always give me a feeling of loneliness. Can't have an independent thinking style without some feeling of isolation. Then there's my knowledge of autism that for the most part isn't shareable with others - when I'm with people, they don't know what I'm going through, and most of them never will. And my special interests - I can share some aspects of them, but nobody really feels quite the same way about a lot of the details that fascinate me so much.
As for being lonely in a crowd, how could it be otherwise? Crowds are little more than a dangerous annoyance to me, and the sight of all those people who aren't bonded with me in any way just makes the feelings of isolation more acute.
I have close friends, but lately I dont hear from them nearly as often. Currently, my interests and theirs dont mesh well whatsoever; we're all into gaming, but I tend to be into very different genres than all of them and whatever game they're into at the time usually looks like garbage to me. I dont get much contact from them right now either; there isnt much to talk about right now, and if I at all get into a conversation about stuff and get whatsoever negative (and NOT being negative is damn near impossible for me) it tends to annoy, and the conversation ends kinda fast. That one, I can understand... I dont mean to be so negative all the time, aint like I do it on purpose, but it's there. So lately, aint much talking at all. Granted they also work, and I do not, so their ability to send texts and stuff (main method of communication for much of the week) is pretty darn limited during the night, except for the two nights they're off. And I cant think up all that much to say half the time, particularly being bored out of my mind lately which just makes me even less talkative. So I end up feeling kinda excluded as a result.
It's pretty annoying. Though I'm well aware that my mood makes it alot worse, but I'm just so tired of this stupid house, ugh... a bit stir-crazy lately, but there's nowhere to go. Well, nowhere that actually has a point. Just going to supermarkets doesnt really count.
I don't understand why people are bothered by "negativity". I've had friends apologize to me saying that they were being negative while talking to me, and it never bothered me. I'm just not affected when people vent. I actually like it when people use me to vent.
But, when I start talking about something "negative", people get annoyed when I'm just trying to be friendly and talk with them, and it makes me feel upset. The way I see it, they are being negative by getting angry with me for that.
I'm not trying to hurt anyone when I speak negatively, I'm just trying to provide as much detail as possible so that they would understand my perspective for the sake of friendly conversation. I don't want people to feel bad for me, it doesn't help me. I'm not trying to manipulate anyone, that would make me feel ashamed.
Most of the time, I just don't know what to say to people, so I say whatever is on my mind, or say something random hoping that it will have a positive effect, or just say nothing. I can never guess how people will respond, they are very unpredictable.
I've often felt alone, except when I'm with my family (because they're like me). I just can't connect with other people the same. And right now, I'm feeling rather cynical and not very friendly. Part of me wants to talk to people (have in depth conversations) and the other part of me wants to watch the world burn... I'm tired of all the backstabbing, back biting garbage that goes on with being social and I don't want any part of it and don't feel like it's worth the effort to try to find someone in my area who won't try to lie to me and then turn on me.
There is one lady I do playdates with (our sons are the same age) and we've known each other for about 12 years, though I still find myself having a hard time trusting her, even though she's shown herself to be a good friend. I think I've just gotten too jaded... I would love to say I'm fine with being alone, but I'm really not. I do need to talk to people, to bounce ideas off them, to get different perspectives on the world. My curiosity is too much.
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Your Aspie score: 171 of 200
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I feel this way too. I would rather just be alone most of the time than deal with the passive aggressive behavior of some people. Even though being by myself most of the time can get boring and lonely, the stress and isolation that I feel from being around those types of people is so much worse than being bored that it's not worth it to me. I try to be really careful with who I open up to now because of that.
As for being lonely in a crowd, how could it be otherwise? Crowds are little more than a dangerous annoyance to me, and the sight of all those people who aren't bonded with me in any way just makes the feelings of isolation more acute.
I couldn't agree more. This is almost exactly how I feel. I am fortunate in that I live in a high mountain valley with a very low population density and so can choose to associate with people or not at my call, not others.
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When everyone is losing their heads except you, maybe you don't understand the situation.
I feel this way too. I would rather just be alone most of the time than deal with the passive aggressive behavior of some people. Even though being by myself most of the time can get boring and lonely, the stress and isolation that I feel from being around those types of people is so much worse than being bored that it's not worth it to me. I try to be really careful with who I open up to now because of that.
These quotes kind of sum up my experiences with friendships. I have a wonderful family but while i know they love me, I am usually stressed with them because they either need something from me or put me down for my aspie traits such as being slow, difficulty making decisions, and other things. I know they are trying to "improve" me but it is exhausting. Alone is easier.
In groups, i am always the one left out; so i feel lonelier in groups than anywhere else, probably. I had some friends, once or twice; but either they have gone about their own lives (which don't include me) or there was too much backbiting and drama that i couldn't decipher let alone navigate...so i walked away. I also get a lot of the "you are so negative" (one SIL doesn't talk to me outside of family gatherings because she "couldn't deal with the negativity") but i honestly don't see myself as negative, certainly not intentionally. I try to be tactful most of the time, but i don't see a benefit in sugar-coating the truth either.
Yeah, i am always lonely. Even though married and with a nice family.
I haven't felt lonely until fairly recently when I moved away from my family. Now I feel lonely for the reasons that others have pointed out: loneliness from not really having anyone close to me, and loneliness from being around people who are so different from me that I just can't connect with them.
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I'm extremely lonely. When I was younger this used to eat me alive. I'm older now and closer to death so being lonely and alone is okay. I now get to catch up on my reading anyway.
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I picked "not lonely and don't need friends" - because I'm just weird that way, and enjoy my solitude. (I actually feel more alone when I'm with people, and don't fit in!) But I do love my family, and enjoy interacting with other people a bit... I just don't 'bond' with anyone properly, and I've learned to accept it.

