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16 Jan 2016, 4:22 am

Indeed, the example was to point out perspective differences, certainly not to bash teachers. I am one, and I work with good people. No insult intended at all: maybe I should have used a less potentially contraversial example...



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16 Jan 2016, 5:34 am

I believe it could be similar to the intended and the hidden curriculum.
Socialisation for people with Autism is a different experience, the subtle learning opportunities communicated through social experiences might not be noticed by a person with ASD. If you missed the intended lesson how can you reflect on it insightfully?
I think it is the hidden lesson, or the inconsistencies which might be the perspective that the person with social challenges would notice in a socialisation dependent learning opportunity.



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16 Jan 2016, 10:34 am

mishtheelf wrote:
Indeed, the example was to point out perspective differences, certainly not to bash teachers. I am one, and I work with good people. No insult intended at all: maybe I should have used a less potentially contraversial example...


I think it's fine, I was just picking nits as aspies are wont to do. The example works well.


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16 Jan 2016, 11:06 am

Mmmm have you ever actually picked nits? What an awful experience...



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16 Jan 2016, 11:22 am

mishtheelf wrote:
Mmmm have you ever actually picked nits? What an awful experience...


Well-played. :lol:


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16 Jan 2016, 11:48 am

I am extremely insightful but not about social things. I just read the original post because I have to run but I wanted to respond quickly. I have not personally read anything that implied that Autistics were not insightful. I know that is definitely not the case for me. But perhaps, OP, you have read articles that I have not found. But I don't think that they are correct at all if they are saying that we are not insightful.


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16 Jan 2016, 1:29 pm

AJisHere wrote:
They're referring to social situations, and I think they're often correct. That can be worked on, though.

For me, though; I spent a lot of time working on understanding other people's viewpoints and am pretty damn good at it by now. It does not come naturally, but I can usually grasp other perspectives more easily than many "NTs" if I remember to do so and work at it, case-by-case. It is in fact so intuitive for a lot of them that they've never had to think about it. I do have to think about it, which can come off as "insightful" I suppose. They could do it too, of course. Most just don't.

Basically, what kraftie said.


Yes, i think you are pretty right. Being insightful in social situations is something you learn (would you be NT or AS). When you are AS, there is only more to learn because you do not have this intuitive knowledge that NT have.

When an Asperger uses his/her insightfulness to understand social situations and learns it, it can be very efficient. But very often, Aspergers are more insightful about other personal interests.



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16 Jan 2016, 3:46 pm

I think it's all of the stereotypes that have been on TV and the Big Screen over the past 70 years.


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