Do you hate "age based" social rules?

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21 Feb 2016, 7:19 am

Yeah same with Pink, and Blue, and other Gender associative rules, like other colors considered to be girly, I like what I like and don't give a s**t about what 'Society' thinks about it. That is that.


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21 Feb 2016, 6:39 pm

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If someone doesn't like seeing you in your underwear at your home, they have no business being there in the first place.


In this situation the person in their underwear is living in her parents home. They have every business being there.

It's simply a matter of manners. You may not choose to care about them, but many others do.

ETA. When you invite a guest over, one of the things you do is make them feel comfortable. Inviting a guest over and then doing something that makes them feel uncomfortable just because it's your home, is one sure way to not have many guests.


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21 Feb 2016, 6:42 pm

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Yes, especially if they're also gender related.

This - AND because their aim seems to be the strengthening of an overpowering super ego and a fixation of people in predictable formal patterns of behavior = straight-jacket = non-life. :ninja:


It hardly puts you in a straight jacket or takes away your life to be asked not to run around in just your underwear in your parents house. That's pretty far from a meaningful restriction.


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21 Feb 2016, 6:43 pm

I didn´t say, I was - did I?

It was a short teen-fit over norms, all in all. Nothing to do with underwear. :D


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22 Feb 2016, 3:30 pm

I especially hate when I'm told I'm too old to do something really fun. Like the people who tell me I can't trick-or-treat as an adult.

Why should I have to give up something fun just because I hit a certain age?



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22 Feb 2016, 4:10 pm

Maybe because adult trick-or-treating is called extortion?


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22 Feb 2016, 4:33 pm

How is adult trick-or-treating forceful or threatening unless the person makes it that way?



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22 Feb 2016, 4:37 pm

Spiderpig wrote:
Maybe because adult trick-or-treating is called extortion?


It would be extortion if people actually went around doing things to you if you don't give them candy, but that isn't the custom. Sure, some kids do that but there isn't really any trick anymore.

That being said, I dislike it when adults come trick or treating. And they don't even bother to dress up, they just wear regular clothes and knock on my door holding a pillow case and expect me to give them candy. They are old enough to buy their own candy. A few years ago I got so tired of it that I started having different treats for the adults. I give them a potato or some carrots or onions. My son gave them condoms one year when he handed out the treats. I occasionally make caramel onions for the adults too. In this town we can give out homemade treats. Almost everybody I know dislikes having adults come trick or treating.


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22 Feb 2016, 4:51 pm

Grammar Geek wrote:
How is adult trick-or-treating forceful or threatening unless the person makes it that way?


The phrase is "trick...or...treat".

"Give me a treat, or I will play a trick on you".

So if you take it literally it is a threat!

The post WWII several generations of children usually dont even know what the phrase means.

But my Depression era parents would talk about how you could end up with your model T sitting on your roof if you didnt give out treats. And you still see toilet paper on trees even today even though Halloween has gotten softened since my parents' day.

So if an adult says "trick or treat" it is kinda extortion.



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22 Feb 2016, 5:04 pm

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How is adult trick-or-treating forceful or threatening unless the person makes it that way?


Because sometimes people only see the negatives. Some people see everything as bad or out to get them and cannot possibly see anything as good or positive or even harmless, that's how.

However, even though I don't think adult trick or treating is extortion, I do think it's very ill mannered. Most adults realize that it's for children and that when they show up at someone's door, not only grown up but also not even dressed up and carrying a pillow case or a plastic grocery sack, that people will usually be too polite to turn them away. I'm not talking about special needs adults, that's different. I'm talking about adults who know better and who understand that it's for children and who have the ability to buy their own candy. I'm not talking about 17 or 18 year olds either. I'm talking about people in their 20s. Not people bringing a baby around or a toddler, but adults.

I give them produce or caramel onions. Everybody o know dislikes it when adults come trick or treating and last time I talked everybody on the street who hands out candy to do the same thing. Potatoes and onions. It's was amazing that people who disliked it happening so much had been so hesitant to do anything about it, but when they found out that others on the street were doing it too, they jumped right in.

Maybe in a few years word will get around that this street isn't good pickings for adults trying to horn in on it. In this town people drive to different areas to trick or treat and my street is one that lots come to. Maybe since this is a popular street, the practice will get around and before long trick or treating will be back to just kids, like its supposed to be.

If you live in an area where its OK to do it, then I don't have a problem with it there. But here it's kids that are supposed to do it and around here we would like it to stay that way.


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22 Feb 2016, 5:15 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Grammar Geek wrote:
How is adult trick-or-treating forceful or threatening unless the person makes it that way?


The phrase is "trick...or...treat".

"Give me a treat, or I will play a trick on you".

So if you take it literally it is a threat!

The post WWII several generations of children usually dont even know what the phrase means.

But my Depression era parents would talk about how you could end up with your model T sitting on your roof if you didnt give out treats. And you still see toilet paper on trees even today even though Halloween has gotten softened since my parents' day.

So if an adult says "trick or treat" it is kinda extortion.


It's not meant to be taken literally. It's not meant to be taken literally when kids say it nor is it when adults say it. It's the same as when a cashier says "how are you?" It's not literal. Kids don't play a trick on you if you don't give out candy and neither do adults. People taking it completely out of context as extortion isn't why they don't like it. If people took it as extortion they would call the police. Also if an adult wants to extort someone its not going to be over candy.

I've been giving out potatoes and caramel onions to the adults who trick or treat at my house for years and nobody has tried to trick me yet.

Kids still do the rolling houses and trees thing but around here they do it to their friends. Nobody does it out of spite. If you're in high school and you're house doesn't get rolled at least once a year you're in sad shape. However, kids also come over and help you clean it up the next day too. It's the surprise part that's fun for them. Nobody knows when its going to happen and they try to catch them, so the thrill is doing it without getting caught. They roll their friends houses, the school, their churches, hell kids even roll the police station and the jail and nobody stops them. They come the next day and clean it up. It's all in fun. Extortion has nothing to do with any of it. Not at all.


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22 Feb 2016, 5:20 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Grammar Geek wrote:
How is adult trick-or-treating forceful or threatening unless the person makes it that way?


The phrase is "trick...or...treat".

"Give me a treat, or I will play a trick on you".

So if you take it literally it is a threat!

The post WWII several generations of children usually dont even know what the phrase means.

But my Depression era parents would talk about how you could end up with your model T sitting on your roof if you didnt give out treats. And you still see toilet paper on trees even today even though Halloween has gotten softened since my parents' day.

So if an adult says "trick or treat" it is kinda extortion.


So that's why kids would play tricks on someone in movies. I have heard of it in real life too at my school but I have never done anything like it. I also never understood why it was trick or treat if there are no tricks lol. I only noticed you go up to houses and ring door bells and say trick or treat and they give you candy.


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22 Feb 2016, 5:35 pm

Speaking of those too old to be trick or treating:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUdfdzm0EpU


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22 Feb 2016, 5:43 pm

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I especially hate when I'm told I'm too old to do something really fun. Like the people who tell me I can't trick-or-treat as an adult.

Why should I have to give up something fun just because I hit a certain age?


Exactly!


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23 Feb 2016, 12:41 pm

I always hated the age limits posted on Lego boxes =/ For a good 10 years social rules convinced me that I was too old to enjoy and play with Lego despite it being my favorite special interest my whole life. It left me feeling ashamed.



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23 Feb 2016, 12:42 pm

Yes.


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