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31 Mar 2016, 4:57 pm

Call me anything you want, just don't call me late for dinner :twisted:

In reality, if you can't call me by my actual first or last name, then don't bother talking to me.



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31 Mar 2016, 5:07 pm

<--- Doesn't give a toss what you call him as long as you don't call him late for supper.



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31 Mar 2016, 5:38 pm

Autistic is fine. I already know I'm a person.



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31 Mar 2016, 7:24 pm

I really do hate person first language for autism- simply because of what the people that use it are trying to imply or are saying with that statement. This X characteristic isn't really a part of the person it shouldn't be a part of the person because it is a sickness or disorder or disease, and therefore, lest we forget that the individual is an actual human person- because hot s**t we are just SO prone to doing that- we have to add the words PERSON WITH in front of whatever illness/disease afflicts them that they so suffer from because if we don't do that- we won't bother to know them or see them beyond the superficial representations we have in our minds about what that "Illness" is.

We won't even think of you really as a person if (heaven forbid!!) we don't call them PERSON WITH X.
In this case "Person with autism".

Like- really?
How pathetic.
How dehumanizing.

Granted, this was how it was explained to me- this is how the "importance" of person first language was explained to me. Use person-first because the individual is more than just disease they are a whole f*****g person, but we won't see that really or we will forget unless we call them people- something-something.
This is a terrible thought process for me (in my mind) when talking about autism.
Autism is a fundamental part of me and my life and who I am and how I see the world. There's no separating it.
It would be like saying: not I am an emotional human, but instead I am a human that feels emotions or I am a human in possession of emotions.
It is just stupid.
Emotions are a part of life and experience! (note: that was just an illustrative example.)



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31 Mar 2016, 7:38 pm

I prefer being called an aspie because most NT's associate autism with these guys:
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31 Mar 2016, 7:47 pm

Basically, this: http://www.thinkinclusive.us/why-person ... son-first/

Also, some of the interesting things mentioned here:
http://autisticadvocacy.org/home/about- ... -language/

I first encountered person first language in regards to the deaf community and how people there didn't like it...
Also, I think this Ted Talk has some relevance if anyone at all cares for a bit of perspective taking...
(he is gay- so don't get the wrong idea from the beginning!)

https://www.ted.com/talks/andrew_solomo ... atter_what



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31 Mar 2016, 8:28 pm

Chichikov wrote:
I prefer people to just call me by my name.


That's pretty much my take too. I don't feel the need to add other descriptors or adjectives around myself.



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01 Apr 2016, 3:06 am

DailyPoutine1 wrote:
I prefer being called an aspie because most NT's associate autism with these guys:
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And a lot of NT's associate Apies as ret*d also when they are not associating them with geniuses who have no feelings and empathy.


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01 Apr 2016, 12:37 pm

They are all fine for me.

If you haven't already done so, I suggest that you ask your service coordinator whether or not your survey is the kind of "numbers" she meant, though.

She may have meant numbers in a peer reviewed journal. Or she may have certain other standards for how those numbers are collected.....A survey that doesn't separate professionally diagnosed autistic people from self-diagnosed autistic people, or that only surveys professionally diagnosed autistic people but has no way of verifying their diagnosis, or that surveys people with whatever type of diagnosis but has no way of checking to see if a single person responded 300 times, etc. may not meet her standards or the standards of her organization.

Not to discourage you -- just that if she has particular requirements, it's good to know what they are so you can adjust your numbers-collecting effort to meet them.


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01 Apr 2016, 12:58 pm

Thank you Animalcrackers, I will check with her. Though, when we were talking about doing the survey she said I was well connected in autistic groups online, and I should ask them, and we've talked about the self-diagnosis part of the community before, and in fact she could argue I am self-diagnosed now thanks to a freaking neurotypical doctor (first one that diagnosed me) deciding I'm not autistic anymore... she has looked that report over though, and said its' rubbish so.... dunno. I know I'm auitstic, and she says the same. Will write an email and see if this is sufficient. Thanks :)


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01 Apr 2016, 3:19 pm

I'm okay with most terms, as long as they aren't used in a negative manner.


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03 Apr 2016, 3:42 am

I much prefer Identity first language myself. I find person first language rather annoying.


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03 Apr 2016, 3:52 am

I really don't care. Whatever is the least time-consuming to say works for me. However I don't really like aspie because I wasn't diagnosed with Asperger's. I was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder.



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03 Apr 2016, 11:40 am

I am for people identifying as they please or not lableing themselves at all if they so please.

What angers me is that it has become a political correctness thing with all these person first social justice warriors demanding and enforcing the use of person first language. If your are a teacher in most cases you must use person first language, pretty similar if you write for the media. All in the name of not offending people like us. You thinking you know what is offensive to me a person who has lived with this condition not just on Autism Awareness day but every day for almost 6 decades is what is truly offensive. In the words of Pete Townsend "Who are you, Who the f**k are you?"


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03 Apr 2016, 11:54 am

I'm fine with any of the autism labels - as well as dysfunctional, neurotic, mentally ill, schizoid... At this point in time, people can't even agree what autism is, or who actually has it, let alone what's the correct term for it, and I've decided to take a 'you can't possibly offend me' attitude toward the whole thing.



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03 Apr 2016, 12:50 pm

I'm only diagnosed with traits, or at least, that's what the psychologist that tested me told me. I didn't talk too loud, get preoccupied with parts of an object, and my eye contact wasn't completely terrible, so I didn't qualify for the full diagnosis, apparently. I think it was also because I have psychosis, that she wouldn't fully diagnose me. But I don't mind being called autistic, my grandma calls me autistic all the time. As well as Schizophrenic.


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