Are most Aspies designed not to breed?

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ToughDiamond
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18 Jul 2016, 10:39 am

If we're designed not to breed, then the designer hasn't done very well in stopping us. We're still here.



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18 Jul 2016, 12:00 pm

Aniihya, you are donating without telling them about your ASS?



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18 Jul 2016, 12:14 pm

Dunno who told you that, but if you wanna keep believing it that's your business ...



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18 Jul 2016, 12:58 pm

I would find it correct to inform them about your autism if you're donating sperm. I would want to know about something like that if I ever used donated sperm.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:45 pm

I don't think most aspies are born sterile so no I don't think that. Though I myself don't want any kids so I don't plan to...but I have the biological ability.


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18 Jul 2016, 5:49 pm

clay5 wrote:
I would find it correct to inform them about your autism if you're donating sperm. I would want to know about something like that if I ever used donated sperm.


You could have a child with autism from sperm that came from a neurotypical to.


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18 Jul 2016, 5:52 pm

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How the hell are we supposed to reproduce if we can't even get into relationships? I'm already 20 years old and have never even been close to getting a girlfriend. They're just not interested in guys like me. I desperately want to get married eventually, but it doesn't seem like that will be possible.


You're only 20....there is quite a lot of time left.


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18 Jul 2016, 5:58 pm

For the MILLIONTH time, AUTISM/ASPERGER'S IS NOT A CLASSIC GENETIC ILLNESS. NO ONE WILL NECESSARILY GET AUTISM/ASPERGER'S FROM AUTISTIC/ASPERGIAN PARENTS.

It's not Down Syndrome. It's not Tay Sachs. It's not Sickle Cell Anemia.

There are many causes of autism, some genetic, some not genetic.



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18 Jul 2016, 6:23 pm

and there is not one "autism gene" either.

I am unaware of any robust studies that explore marriage rates in AS adults. When I grew up (a long time ago) nearly everyone married, even the majority of gay men and lesbian women then, to heterosexual partners. Some of these marriages were marriages of convenience, both parties clear on the personal advantages, though most were an attempt to avoid the immense criticism from social non-comformists then and the pressure to marry was intense, a cultural demand that was imposed in a very different way from now. All my AS forbears married and all had children. I am one of them!



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18 Jul 2016, 6:32 pm

dont know, but i guess i support that theory, im quite possibly everything that someone doesn't desire in a person, so therefore nobody wants to be with me, so maybe i am designed not to be with someone, maybe im designed to alone.


i guess i can learn to be okay with that, it will take time, but perhaps i can


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18 Jul 2016, 6:38 pm

You're 19. Wait until you're 40. Then come back to us. I bet you'll have a couple of kids by then.



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18 Jul 2016, 11:39 pm

Are we "designed" to be sterile? Probably not. Although if few of us can find partners to have children with, then we might as well be.

I don't really want to have kids. Not because I'm sterile (never checked but probably fine), or because I'd be a terrible dad (I doubt it), but because with the way the world is, raising children in such a world would be, in my opinion, borderline-child-abuse! ! :cry:



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19 Jul 2016, 12:17 am

I hear you!

To consider the much bigger sociological picture and transitions over recent decades for a moment:

-marriage rates on a per capita basis have fallen over recent decades
-people are marrying later than in previous decades
-more people (including NTs) are not marrying at all, not because they can't, but because they choose not to for a variety of reasons
-gay marriage rates, of course, are increasing, now that this is possible.
-in the past lesbian women often entered into heterosexual marriages, now they come out as lesbian instead. Ditto gay men.

We don't know how many NT males, for example, would LIKE to marry but cannot find a suitable and willing partner.
So there may be a much bigger phenomenon that just AS issues around this. Parenthood is very expensive now and that also has an effect on who chooses to have children or not. Also, it is now far more socially acceptable to choose not to have children - such people were always called "selfish" in the past (which was very unfair and meant to make them conform and fall into line).



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19 Jul 2016, 1:29 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
If we're designed not to breed, then the designer hasn't done very well in stopping us. We're still here.


Likely because women who are often protected by certain factors continue to pass down broken genes and mutations.
We also have to take into account humans are horribly inbred. A group of 55 chimpanzees has more genetic diversity than all 7 billion of us.

Autism and aspergers are possibly a result of constant inbreeding by the continued existence of humanity not having enough diversity.


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19 Jul 2016, 5:49 am

We are not the product of "broken genetics."

We might be the product of "different genetics."



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19 Jul 2016, 7:23 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
We are not the product of "broken genetics."

We might be the product of "different genetics."


Ever take a bunch of Xanax? Like a huge dose? Or ectasy like my mother once did? That clear head and attention span is what NT people feel every day. They don't have to pay attention to every single thing they do to get it right. I would trade an IQ of 200 for not feeling mental and sensory torture in my body every single day.


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