How Important Is Gender To Your Identity?

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01 Oct 2016, 10:33 am

Gender isn't relevant to my identity at all, unless I'm being stereotyped on the basis of my gender, in which case I do tend to take an active stance in defiance of gender roles. Mostly though I just do what I want, I don't think about whether I could/should just because I am female.

I don't always defy the gender double standard though. I once had a job in a cafe and got put on pot-washing duty. When the manager arrived he said I was "too pretty for pot-wash" and insisted I work at the counter instead. Now, the feminist in me wanted to defy this objectification, but another, bigger part of me didn't want to be washing up kitchen grease all day, so I went with it :lol: .



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01 Oct 2016, 11:28 am

It's not really important to me at all. Like, I know biologically I'm female but I reject the whole concept of "gender roles" and men are from Mars/women are from Venus kind of thing. I also reject the way society looks at kids, like it's wrong if a girl plays with legos or toy cars or boys to play with dolls. Toys are toys in my eyes there are no distinctive categories for "boy" and "girl" toys. Toys are toys. I'M A GIRL, and I "identify" as such because... biology, but legos and cars were more fun to me to play with than Barbie was and that's ok. It doesn't make me a "tomboy." If a man cries, it doesn't make him a wuss. Men can clean house and be homemakers and women can learn carpentry and welding and fix their own cars. Society should just get used to that.


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01 Oct 2016, 12:38 pm

This question doesn't really make sense to me so it's tough for me to answer. It's like asking how important is my hair color or my height or my eye color or my skin color. They're all just part of who I am and what was given to me the day my parents had me conceived. I suppose if someone were trans, I think I can understand because they don't like being called by the gender they are born with so imagine how I would feel if someone kept calling me a him or a he or his instead of her and she and hers. But then again if someone had my wrong eye color or my wrong hair color, same difference. So perhaps this is how important my gender is to me.


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01 Oct 2016, 3:50 pm

Personally, I love being Male. If I was a woman and had to shave my legs, have "woman problems" down there, put on makeup etc. I just might lose my mind, being a man is just so much easier.

Gender wise I act manly, albeit but somewhat off.


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01 Oct 2016, 7:43 pm

Not much. I feel like something in between. One thing is certain: In my next life I do not want to be a woman. Life is too short for that s**t.


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01 Oct 2016, 8:01 pm

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ever since i was a pretty little kid, i never really considered myself a girl? like, i knew i was but it didnt really mean much to me. eventually i found out about the gender label nonbinary (meaning not necessarily a boy/girl) and i feel like that fits me more! but to me gender doesnt make a huge difference on who i think i am if that makes sense? i think of myself as a person/kid, not anything more complicated than that!


This. This is me all the way.

Honestly, most of the time I feel I have no gender. I'm a Lillikoi.

But being referred to or treated as female makes me uncomfortable. I also do not like to look female. :?:

I kind of don't like when it people have expectations of other people based on their gender. It just-- grr. I feel like one's reproductive system should not be a factor in your judgement of the individual.


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01 Oct 2016, 9:06 pm

Not important in the slightest. Actually, it's the opposite of important. I completely disregard it. In fact, I don't think I would like your religious studies teacher very much upon hearing something like that.

If someone asked for me to give some basic information about myself, I doubt I'd mention my gender at all. I might even go out of my way to avoid it! I do not even like to think about gender.

I identify myself by:
My name
My hobbies
My tendencies
My interests
My personality traits

Not my age, either. Probably because I feel five years younger than I am. I also do not identify myself with my country, town, or state, because I am so introverted that my physical location seems distant from me. O.o

Lillikoi wrote:
I kind of don't like when it people have expectations of other people based on their gender. It just-- grr. I feel like one's reproductive system should not be a factor in your judgement of the individual.


Yeah, I've never understood this at all. It's very annoying. I often wish that I would be perceived as neither male nor female, so that people wouldn't judge me by it. I'm not "girly", and in general, I relate to guys more than to girls. People make incorrect assumptions about me. >.< My gender is totally irrelevant!


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03 Oct 2016, 1:10 am

I'd say it's fundamental. I don't consider there any meaningful distinction between "sex and gender" either, and consider it primarily rooted in biology, as is the case in every other species of animal. Likewise the notion that the "only" difference between the sexes is the genitalia is false, as innate neurological and physiological differences exist.

(I'd say some societies however have emphasized the gender roles too strongly, and that individuals should be judged based on merit and individual ability).

People can "identify" as whatever they want, but unless biology or neurology says otherwise it's no more meaningful than calling a "duck" a "Ferrari", and utterly nonscientfic. If sex/gender isn't defined by science but simply by the "clothes" one chooses to wear, then this means that if I dress up like Darth Vader for Halloween this means I am actually Darth Vader; nonsense.



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03 Oct 2016, 4:23 am

I'm into being a guy and liking guy stuff for the most part. Except I have no interest in sports. One of my eight characters on my online role playing game is female. So it's not hugely important to me.



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03 Oct 2016, 4:42 am

Unimportant.
Although I don't like it when people refer to me as 'she' and 'her' so maybe it's a little bit important.
I would hate for people to start talking to me like I'm a female.
No offense to females intended.
Females are lovely.
I just wouldn't want to be one.


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03 Oct 2016, 5:26 am

rats_and_cats wrote:
My Religious Studies professor said that gender is the most important thing that determines one's identity


No, just no.


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03 Oct 2016, 6:40 am

Man the answers to this thread are great indications as to why I do not identify with most of the world.

Just wow... were all doomed :skull:



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03 Oct 2016, 6:58 am

The lack of it is important to me, if for nothing else than to avoid bullish!t conversations.
I don't care what anyone else has to say about chromosomes, biology or "science" or anything else about gender and sex they don't understand to justify their position that binary gender defines everyone. I'm just about done pushing against people who want to call me "delusional" because this doesn't fit in with their weak understanding of "science."


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03 Oct 2016, 8:05 am

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Gender is not important to me, when I was young I thought we just inhabit the bodies given to us and go along with it. Like how someone doesn't choose their hair color. But after seeing the existence of transgendered people and the misery they feel, I came to understand that there is true discomfort in not being born in the correct body and gender is very vital to who a person is, I am obviously comfortable with my own gender not because of the presence of happiness being male but by the absence of unhappiness at not being female. Nature is cruel.


^ I relate to this. In a way I find it fascinating when people do feel a pull to a specific gender identity because I have no idea how that would feel. I do not feel female, but my body is, so that's what I say I am. *shrugs*

I have never been a typical female, but I have never been a typical anything. In some ways I may seem more male, in other ways more female. I don't know what I am... maybe gender fluid or gender neutral. I dunno. But I do believe that had I been born in a male body I would likely be sitting here saying pretty much the same kind of thing.


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03 Oct 2016, 8:11 am

richardbenson wrote:
Personally, I love being Male. If I was a woman and had to shave my legs, have "woman problems" down there, put on makeup etc. I just might lose my mind, being a man is just so much easier.

Gender wise I act manly, albeit but somewhat off.


Heh those things are only a problem if women let them be. Granted the "biological" parts are not easily changed unless you get "that" removed" but everything else wearing make up, shaving, etc is only a problem if one lets it be. Before I learned I was genderqueer and struggled to even identify myself as a female shaving and wearing make up was never a thing that was high on my priority list. The only area I shave are my pits because if I don't then my deodorant would quit on me faster and my sweat smells like curry powder from all the seasoned cooking I do ...



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03 Oct 2016, 8:18 am

Are you of West Indian descent, Green? I don't know why I asked that question LOL

As for gender/identity:

I like being a man. I like being kind to the ladies.

By and large, my interests are "masculine"--but if there's something "feminine" I like, I'd go for it unhesitatingly.