How to distinguish Aspergers from social anxiety?

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11 Dec 2016, 5:41 pm

BTDT wrote:
Some of the things that seem to be more common with Aspergers than social anxiety
Ridiculously good memory.
Glancing at a page of text and pulling out content.
Savant skills
Face blindness
Multitasking issues. Conversely, the ability to single task for a long, long time.
Cross dominance. Ability to write well with either hand
Issues with driving
High IQ in some areas and low IQ in other areas
Losing track of time.
I have all the negative traits you mentioned but none of the positive.... What does that make me ? :|


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11 Dec 2016, 6:27 pm

For me ASD/Aspergers vs SA is a tricky one. I have moderate to severe SA. I was always introverted and shy but it tipped over to SA due to negative peer reactions to my physical/social awkwardness. Hence the physical/social awkwardness that could point to ASD(traits?) certainly preceded the SA.


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11 Dec 2016, 8:01 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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It should be point out that autism is typically misdiagnosed in females.

Is there proof that this statement is true?



There have been several articles about it online. Google is your friend.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c ... %20females

Google is not my friend. I don't use Google because it tracks users; I have it blocked in my browser, so your link leads to a blank search page.



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31 Dec 2016, 9:22 pm

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Social Anxiety can fit into Aspergers Syndrome and in most cases too. (Although not all cases).

Social Anxiety is what it is. It's the over-anxious feeling we get when we're around other people. Usually it tends to get worse the more people that surround us.

Aspergers Syndrome is far more extensive than that. As well as suffering from Social Anxiety Disorders, people with Aspergers also have other issues, such as becoming fixated on a particular interest. Being unable to read and understand facial expressions and social cues. Unable to identify and express their own emotions to other people. Failure to grasp situations. Unable to break out of routines, or find it unbearable to do so. We can appear to lack empathy on the surface. Being unable to recognize subtle tone changes in speech which can lead to us taking things literally when they're not intended to be. Having language and logical intelligence that is considered advanced for our age level. Being unable to look at people in the eyes, or not realizing when we're staring. Possible delays in motor development, making it take longer to master physical tasks. Often becoming over stimulated, caused by things such as bright lights, touching certain fabrics, hearing certain noises..... etc

It's important to understand however that no 2 people with Aspergers are exactly the same. We're all unique in our own way and our disabilities/abilities can vary greatly.



"It's important to understand however that no 2 people with Aspergers are exactly the same. We're all unique in our own way and our disabilities/abilities can vary greatly."

I'm glad you said that, Fraser_1990, because everything you said above that is way smarter than anything I could say.

I'm going to repeat Fraser's message that this is my experience only, not everybody's.

I know and am friends with a lot of people who have social anxiety, and something interesting I've noticed is a big discernible difference between us is our ability to make phone calls. People I know who are on the spectrum but don't have social anxiety have great phone calls with me (and in person conversations too—we’re all on the spectrum), but our conversations with others in person tend to be very awkward. I know people with anxiety both on and off the spectrum who cannot make any phone calls with me or anyone because they're afraid they'll say something stupid and nothing will convince them otherwise. As a person without social anxiety but still on the spectrum, I actually prefer phone calls because there are no facial cues I'm expected to be able to interpret. I'm also a lot better at putting inflections in my voice than putting my emotions/intentions in my face. The “checking in” (i.e., “are you still listening?”) I do with people to know whether they are still listening is considered polite over the phone and weird/unnecessary in person.

In short, a difference I'd say is that anxiety, defined by NAMI as a mental illness, would involve irrational barriers to talking to people whereas accommodations (specifically addressing those barriers others mentioned above) are necessary to make me the rest of us feel comfortable. I can only certainly speak for my case, of course, which is one of only minor vocal impairments (abstract thought and therefore abstract speech is hard for me unless I’m reading from a prepared script, in which case it is no longer abstract).

Hope this individual experience is helpful.


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01 Jan 2017, 6:46 pm

A significant difference between the two is sensory overload. Most people who only have Social Anxiety do not get overwhelmed by weird lights or sounds. People with SA also usually can handle being touched without feeling slightly traumatized by it. People with SA only don't usually stim either.

From what I understand people with SA know how to socialize, they may be anxious about it, where people with AS are usually clueless about the whole thing. And people with AS but not SA may socialize with no anxiety even though they suck at.



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01 Jan 2017, 7:38 pm

starkid wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
starkid wrote:
BTDT wrote:
It should be point out that autism is typically misdiagnosed in females.

Is there proof that this statement is true?



There have been several articles about it online. Google is your friend.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c ... %20females

Google is not my friend. I don't use Google because it tracks users; I have it blocked in my browser, so your link leads to a blank search page.


I use this web search engine instead of Google because it doesn't track your activity:

https://duckduckgo.com


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01 Jan 2017, 10:34 pm

When I was younger, doctors suggested I had both. I've also been diagnosed with GAD.



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01 Jan 2017, 10:50 pm

I would say social anxiety or similar is just one trait amongst many when it comes to autism. Most autistic traits exist outside of social interaction.



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05 Jan 2017, 7:30 am

starkid wrote:
Google is not my friend. I don't use Google because it tracks users; I have it blocked in my browser, so your link leads to a blank search page.


Off-topic, but just so you know, most websites out there track users to some extent, through cookies and/or analytics. For example, when someone visits my site I can see what town they're in, what website they came from, whether they're a new or returning visitor, how long they spend on the site, which pages they visit while they're there, what browser they have, whether they're on mobile or desktop, etc. Some of it even if you're browsing in "private" mode.



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05 Jan 2017, 9:34 am

I see a clear difference considering I don't have social anxiety. I just don't like to be bothered many times but I'm not beat down by anxiety by dealing with people.



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05 Jan 2017, 4:09 pm

Pre diagnosis I always suspected that I had SA rather than AS as I do have anxiety dealing with people but then 4 months ago I was diagnosed with AS. I am absolutely fine dealing with someone one on one, in fact I can quite enjoy it at times if it is a planned conversation and not a surprise, but when it becomes a group conversation I sometimes find it hard to follow and just basically want to run away and be on my own.