Debating whether this is the right place -any thoughts?
SaveFerris wrote:
I think Keigan has hit the nail on the head there FM , You are placing too much emphasis on the symptoms of a poster with ASD ( I'm guilty of it ) , everyone is different , and while most people on the spectrum share similarities there are always exception to the rules. Only you can answer if this is the right place for you , no one else. If you gain any positivity or from being here then this is the right place for you on the other hand if all you get is negativity ( and I don't just mean having a bad week ) then you need to address why it's negative before you make any decisions.
I think it is my need to question combined with my insecurity that has me doubting whether this is the right place, rather than any outright negativity from other people.
I guess my biggest hang up is over replies but for me that is a long standing bugbear across multiple forums,so not just to do with here. A lot has to do with past experiences of social rejection that have fostered deep feelings of insecurity.
Also I tend to forget that other people may be in the same situation re replies and that it's not exclusive to me.
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firemonkey wrote:
itsme82 wrote:
You were talking about being unsure whether you were AS "enough" to be here. I was merely responding to that post of yours. Sounded like you were looking for some stereotype.
I don't think I was looking for a stereotype. I accept ASD includes a broad spectrum of people. I'm just a little wary as to whether I fit in that broad spectrum.
I do know I have marked social interaction difficulties stretching back as far as I can remember, and am seen as socially odd. I definitely would say I'm not neurotypical but you can be neurodiverse without being on the spectrum.
I have done various online tests and score quite highly on those but am aware that such tests can produce false positives. I got my sister to score me on the RAADS-R at aspie tests and she actually scored me higher(163-9-86-35-33) than I scored myself(ave 147.0 15.0 73.5 27.0 31.5) The thing I did score myself higher on was language.
The true/never true choice does make it difficult for things that are often but not always true. Scoring conservatively, as those not always true being never true, I score myself 126.0 15.0 63.0 24.0 24.0.
Gotcha. It's not entirely clear for me either. I'm the opposite of you maybe in that I'm neurotypical in a lot of things so I'm not even sure if I've got any kind of real neurodiversity. So I'm normal in many things where AS people are not, but yet I do have social difficulties due to some kind of impairment in that area. Much milder than what I read about AS stuff but it still causes some issues that sometimes can get extreme, combined with too much social obliviousness/aloofness as default. It's an unnamed-unlabeled issue so far really but BAP isn't a bad approximation for me.
firemonkey wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
I think Keigan has hit the nail on the head there FM , You are placing too much emphasis on the symptoms of a poster with ASD ( I'm guilty of it ) , everyone is different , and while most people on the spectrum share similarities there are always exception to the rules. Only you can answer if this is the right place for you , no one else. If you gain any positivity or from being here then this is the right place for you on the other hand if all you get is negativity ( and I don't just mean having a bad week ) then you need to address why it's negative before you make any decisions.
I think it is my need to question combined with my insecurity that has me doubting whether this is the right place, rather than any outright negativity from other people.
I guess my biggest hang up is over replies but for me that is a long standing bugbear across multiple forums,so not just to do with here. A lot has to do with past experiences of social rejection that have fostered deep feelings of insecurity.
Also I tend to forget that other people may be in the same situation re replies and that it's not exclusive to me.
I was actually refering to your own negativity not anyone elses ( which I don't see ).
At least you know what your biggest hang up is , that is a great start in being able to overcome it.
You need to realise that 99% of posters here have suffered in their life and are not interested in causing anyone else pain , this is a safe enviroment for you to air your questions , I can't think of anywhere else where this is possible..
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SaveFerris wrote:
You need to realise that 99% of posters here have suffered in their life and are not interested in causing anyone else pain , this is a safe enviroment for you to air your questions , I can't think of anywhere else where this is possible..
I agree.
@Firemonkey,
If you are looking for individual and personal dialogue then the forums might not meet your expectations. As individuals we only have a limited amount of time and bandwidth to read and re-read the commentary, as much as we do read and understand there will always be well intended expression that does not fit perfectly. If you are looking for individual and personal dialogue then you might consider talking with someone face to face for that level of engagement. Try answering the questions of others as a way to get out of your own head.
firemonkey wrote:
itsme82 wrote:
It's an unnamed-unlabeled issue so far really but BAP isn't a bad approximation for me.
BAP would make some sense even if ASD only weakly fits.
I seriously doubt I have ASD ( today ) and BAP seems to fit for me although I'm not sure where my autistic traits originate from but it is very likely that it's not from autism and possibly other things i.e. OCD , GAD , SPD , HSP , Echolalia , Introvert & PTSD . I don't think I have one trait that can't be explained by other disorders although that would mean I have multiple disorders which is unlucky but possible. The other theory is that I have autistic traits but they do not affect the quality of my life due to being lucky but due to PTSD , OCD & GAD it amplifies the autistic traits which makes them more noticeable to people who know me well.
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itsme82 wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
itsme82 wrote:
It's an unnamed-unlabeled issue so far really but BAP isn't a bad approximation for me.
BAP would make some sense even if ASD only weakly fits.
Ah, for you too?
I am not sure I fit the ASD spectrum criteria enough to be seen as on the ASD spectrum but do believe I have higher than average ASD traits.Hence my comment "even if ASD only weakly fits"
I guess if you take a broad continuum approach then BAP could be seen to be at the very mild to mild end of what is called an 'autistic spectrum'
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SaveFerris wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
itsme82 wrote:
It's an unnamed-unlabeled issue so far really but BAP isn't a bad approximation for me.
BAP would make some sense even if ASD only weakly fits.
I seriously doubt I have ASD ( today ) and BAP seems to fit for me although I'm not sure where my autistic traits originate from but it is very likely that it's not from autism and possibly other things i.e. OCD , GAD , SPD , HSP , Echolalia , Introvert & PTSD . I don't think I have one trait that can't be explained by other disorders although that would mean I have multiple disorders which is unlucky but possible. The other theory is that I have autistic traits but they do not affect the quality of my life due to being lucky but due to PTSD , OCD & GAD it amplifies the autistic traits which makes them more noticeable to people who know me well.
OCD and a bit of SPD could apply to me too.
The way you describe it though, it sounds like the second theory is more likely for you (essentially, too many disorders listed for the first theory
firemonkey wrote:
itsme82 wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
itsme82 wrote:
It's an unnamed-unlabeled issue so far really but BAP isn't a bad approximation for me.
BAP would make some sense even if ASD only weakly fits.
Ah, for you too?
I am not sure I fit the ASD spectrum criteria enough to be seen as on the ASD spectrum but do believe I have higher than average ASD traits.Hence my comment "even if ASD only weakly fits"
I guess if you take a broad continuum approach then BAP could be seen to be at the very mild to mild end of what is called an 'autistic spectrum'
I see and yeah.

