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Which is it?
All the symptoms combined 63%  63%  [ 10 ]
Each symptom individually 19%  19%  [ 3 ]
I don't know/I'm not sure 19%  19%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 16

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28 Jul 2017, 8:16 pm

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Hi SaveFerris :) . How are you doing?


Fair to middling , how about you? :D


Alright; my hand is really hurting from posting so much, though :lol:


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28 Jul 2017, 8:18 pm

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Hi SaveFerris :) . How are you doing?


Fair to middling , how about you? :D


Alright; my hand is really hurting from posting so much, though :lol:


First world problems :lol:


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28 Jul 2017, 8:19 pm

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StampySquiddyFan wrote:

Hi SaveFerris :) . How are you doing?


Fair to middling , how about you? :D


Alright; my hand is really hurting from posting so much, though :lol:


First world problems :lol:


Yup! :D


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28 Jul 2017, 8:30 pm

Sometimes, "clinically-significant" behavior might not be obvious at first glance.

But might become obvious once one sees how the person is functioning overall, over a few days



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28 Jul 2017, 8:34 pm

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Sometimes, "clinically-significant" behavior might not be obvious at first glance.

But might become obvious once one sees how the person is functioning overall, over a few days


Yeah, I guess so. I have known these people for more than a few days, but I realize that they can seem "normal" at first glance.


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28 Jul 2017, 9:34 pm

Many times, ironically, in places where you would think they would be more "comfortable," like home, they might function worse than in other places.



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28 Jul 2017, 9:43 pm

Hey Ferris,

Even if it turns out you're not actually "autistic," you're still an "honorary Spectrumite" in my eyes.



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29 Jul 2017, 8:00 am

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Many times, ironically, in places where you would think they would be more "comfortable," like home, they might function worse than in other places.


That's interesting. I've read things about kids holding in their anxiety all day and finally melting down when they get home. Is that what you mean?


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29 Jul 2017, 8:49 am

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Many times, ironically, in places where you would think they would be more "comfortable," like home, they might function worse than in other places.


That's interesting. I've read things about kids holding in their anxiety all day and finally melting down when they get home. Is that what you mean?


Either that or massive stimming and withdrawing for me.



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29 Jul 2017, 8:52 am

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Many times, ironically, in places where you would think they would be more "comfortable," like home, they might function worse than in other places.


That's interesting. I've read things about kids holding in their anxiety all day and finally melting down when they get home. Is that what you mean?


Either that or massive stimming and withdrawing for me.


Oh, that makes sense too. I've read things about people being able to tell when something stressful or upsetting happens to the person when their stimming changes or increases.


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29 Jul 2017, 9:23 am

That's part of it.....the "holding in" of their anxiety.

Another part, ironically, is that kids feel "more comfortable" at home, so they feel, in a sense, "empowered" to "let go" as far as their symptoms are concerned.

While they are not at home, it's probably worse for the kid, even though they don't actually "overtly express" their symptoms.



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29 Jul 2017, 9:42 am

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That's part of it.....the "holding in" of their anxiety.

Another part, ironically, is that kids feel "more comfortable" at home, so they feel, in a sense, "empowered" to "let go" as far as their symptoms is concerned.

While they are not at home, it's probably worse for the kid, even though they don't actually "overtly express" their symptoms.


Yeah, I understand better now. I feel bad for the kids, though.


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29 Jul 2017, 11:12 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Hey Ferris,

Even if it turns out you're not actually "autistic," you're still an "honorary Spectrumite" in my eyes.


Thanks Kraftie , If nothing else I've educated myself on autism and got an insight into the struggles some people face on the spectrum :D


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29 Jul 2017, 12:09 pm

StampySquiddyFan wrote:
For example, if you had person with social/communication impairments that were deemed clinically significant, and they had 2 out of 4 repetitive behaviors (that weren't "clinically significant"), would that be enough for a diagnosis?

No, if the symptoms are not clinically significant then they're not relevant to the diagnosis. If you don't have the relevant symptoms you can't be considered to have the condition.



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29 Jul 2017, 12:52 pm

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For example, if you had person with social/communication impairments that were deemed clinically significant, and they had 2 out of 4 repetitive behaviors (that weren't "clinically significant"), would that be enough for a diagnosis?

No, if the symptoms are not clinically significant then they're not relevant to the diagnosis. If you don't have the relevant symptoms you can't be considered to have the condition.


Sorry I didn't reply until now, this stupid gift card thing keeps popping up on my screen.

What if you had the relevant symptoms, but they weren't deemed clinically significant by a doctor? The term is quite subjective, you know. Some things most people would count as clinically significant in me don't actually interfere with my life that much. Some symptoms people wouldn't deem clinically significant actually do. What would you describe "clinically significant" as?


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29 Jul 2017, 1:04 pm

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All the symptoms combined have to produce a "clinically significant" overall presentation in a person.

But...in the DSM-V, it specifically states that 2 out of the 4 behaviors within the B section must be present. It doesn't have to be severe, though---just present.

There has to be something from Section A, and something from Section C. It doesn't have to be severe.

^^^ this. not severe... but clinically significant... which is really just saying "has a meaningful impact on your life"