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TheMaTrIx
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03 Jun 2007, 7:06 am

K, I guess thats the 3de problem I still have, I also get utterly exhausted when being around people (including the ones I know well, like my parents) for to long.
My cap is around 2 hours, but I can usually get some solitary time by either "going for a smoke" or zoning out (which bugs people rather badly).

I understand that for some people, like the ones with morbid fascinations and suicidal tendencies, medication to relieve those feelings can be a big help.

I also guess I'm lucky that my problems are mainly related to social problems and having trouble giving attention to things that don't interest me.

Although for me, a 29 year old, good looking guy (not saying that about myself, but thats what I've been told) the craving for companionship and social contact is start to eat away at me.

There is a difference between wanting to be alone and being alone because your mind gets whacked when its in contact with others for to long and your problems cause people to look at you as some loon or weirdo (I got a killer sense of humor, but it isn't always received to well).

I love it when my sister brings her 4 kids over (I'm very good with kids) but I can't spend much more then 2 hours looking after them before needing half an hour to recuperate.
I like having a girlfriend, but its extremely hard to make contact with girls if they don't come talk to me first and its even worse when you get baited by a girl that has bad intentions and she breaks your heart (and like with me, your wallet) for the umpteenth time.

I think thats one of the biggest misconceptions about people with aspergers. They are seen as loners and anti-social, but often we have a craving for social contact, emotion and companionship just like or even stronger then "normal" people. The problem is just that because of regular painful experiences because we just suck at social contacts, we get isolated and outside the social game by default, if we like it or not.



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03 Jun 2007, 7:31 am

I don’t like the power of will
I can cut your legs off and you ain’t going to walk again
no matter how powerful your will is
you can tumble down a hill and break your brain
you ain’t going to think the same
no matter how taller your will is compared to said hill
and if you ain’t like ZanneMarie
who can ingest one hundred milligrams of V
who can still SEE
and you suffer from panic attacks jus’ sittin’ in a cardboard box like me
it’s good to open that Xanax box
it beats sawing your own fingers off
‘cause of that stupid chemical flaw
or is that flaw of thought
who knows
Psychos and Psychics rarely agree with their lore
anyway
there IS a point where you will fall off



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03 Jun 2007, 7:35 am

earthdweller wrote:


I've also read a best selling book about the brain and that this book reinforces a positive outlook on things with one of the last few paragraphs in some words of that last page "do not worry about success when doing things that you have a passion for." + "the actual doing is what matters."




I SO agree.

This is how I have been living lately and I'm so much better off.

What's the title of the book ? It sounds like a very interesting and useful one.


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03 Jun 2007, 9:38 am

There's 2 sides to this - part of it is handling your own aches, pains, and discomforts which a lot of people do. The other side though, especially when so much of whether people like or can even stand a person is based on presence and mannerisms, sometimes people need to take medication just so they don't send the signs of weakness to people around them. Take for instance if you have real bad anxiety and your trying to get a job in most places, in the professional and service work world that kind of weakness can get you fired - your coworkers won't respect you, the customers will walk all over you, and while there's some merit to not caring what people think of you there's also a serious problem when your in that sort of position where what certain people think of you actually has a huge hand in whether you can even pay your rent. Thankfully my anxiety hasn't been that bad in at least 3 or 4 years now but if I ever found it getting to that point again I'd do what I have to pretty much protect my own life and my ability to be self-sufficient.



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03 Jun 2007, 9:42 am

TheMatrix - I agree almost entirely. Though,
I suspect not taking temporary pain relief is
going too far. Still, I pretty much do that too.

I have seen so many people turned from those
with a spark of life, to mindless drones (at least
to my perceptions), without seeing any ill effects
themselves. This terrifies the living s**t out of me.



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03 Jun 2007, 12:27 pm

its too bad they dont make a pill that you can take for depression like a asprin, it would have an imeadiate affect but would ware off in 8 hours. that way you wouldnt have to be on a pill routine



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04 Jun 2007, 12:34 pm

It seems to me that discussion mostly runs around drug or drug-free treatment. I don’t want to promote any because it does not matter for me if it works. There are different medications and different strategies and I am rather interested in particular kinds of it, not whether it is a drug or not.

TheMaTrIx wrote:
Understanding myself is imho the best way to help others understand me too.
Knowing and understanding myself has also helped me to be quick on my feet when I do something from the subcontious that isn't appropriate and adjust and react in ways to rectify the situations.
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The first is usually easelly relieved because I have some friends and family that do seem to understand me (and now that I'm diagnosed even better) and help me make first contact with people, so that it becomes much easyer to make contacts, they also help me be aware of other people's intentions, so that I don't get suckered or hurt because of my inability to read people.

You've suggested using people to compensate problems, asking for explanation of their behavior or explaining yourself to them because problems arise from misunderstanding. I can not realize how it really may help as people often want to manage it silently.