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30 Jul 2018, 10:22 pm

Autistics males around puberty age... And their voices.

Yeah, I did met some that do gave a gayish voice. I even had known one
If not 'gayish' there's another scale of high pitch like male and verbal -- 'childish' or 'boyish'.
Likely unintentional. I've even explicitly asked one if he's gay for laughs. :lol: He outright denies it. And of course, even I knew he isn't gay, really - preferences and all that.


Yet I also met a handful of other NDs and NTs with the same type of voice. Of the same ages, too.
Some are intentional, some aren't. Some did had a form of lisp.


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30 Jul 2018, 10:50 pm

StampySquiddyFan wrote:
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No it wasn't like that it wasn't a gay lisp either just a noticeably gay voice.


Have you been diagnosed with ASD (self or professionally) now?


I went for a PIP assessment a few months ago and my parents found a piece of paper saying I was diagnosed with Aspergers 9 years ago.



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31 Jul 2018, 11:14 am

Well I know quite a few gay men and you wouldn't think they were gay by how they speak or even how they look.


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31 Jul 2018, 11:17 am

That's true: most gay men don't have the "gay voice."



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31 Jul 2018, 11:56 am

you use that term like a majority of gay men have the voice...and like it's their choice (neither of which are true)


i like the way my voice sounds to myself, but really it is rather deep. hate it. but i'm fine with not speaking in the first place.


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31 Jul 2018, 11:59 am

I just said that the majority of gay men DON'T have that voice LOL.

My voice is tenor; I wish it was more baritone or bass.



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31 Jul 2018, 12:07 pm

twice the reinforcement of gay truths.


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31 Jul 2018, 12:10 pm

I can't comprehend what you are saying.....

There is a "gay voice." My therapist has a "gay voice." It doesn't matter to me. He's still a great guy.



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31 Jul 2018, 12:23 pm

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What’s a gay voice?



The voice Dick Emery adopted for a gay character in his 1970s weekly comedy show was at the time regarded as the stereotypical 'gay' voice, and perhaps remains so for many people. You wouldn't be allowed to broadcast a sketch like this nowadays....



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31 Jul 2018, 3:48 pm

^Ooh You Are Awful... But I Like You!


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31 Jul 2018, 4:50 pm

Daniel89 wrote:
Did anyone else have a Gay voice growing up? Could this be a symptom of Autism?

I had a gay voice until I was about 13/14.


Um, I'm an out of the closet (WAY out of the closet) gay male. I have a normal male voice.

WTF is this "gay voice" of which you speak?


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31 Jul 2018, 4:51 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
That's true: most gay men don't have the "gay voice."


I'm not aware of any such thing KK.


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31 Jul 2018, 5:30 pm

I only have a light voice, not a "gay voice".



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31 Jul 2018, 5:44 pm

RainbowUnion wrote:
WTF is this "gay voice" of which you speak?

Most gay males I know have a normal voice, but a few have the "gay voice".

It's the stereotypical gay man accent. Like Big Gay Al. Or like a drag queen, some people just put it on for "show".


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31 Jul 2018, 8:42 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
WTF is this "gay voice" of which you speak?

Most gay males I know have a normal voice, but a few have the "gay voice".

It's the stereotypical gay man accent. Like Big Gay Al. Or like a drag queen, some people just put it on for "show".


Exactly. There's this high-pitched soft/gentle voice (often with a lisp) that tends to be associated with gay men. Not all gay men possess such a voice, but some do. It is typically portrayed in Queer coded or explicitly gay characters.

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Queer coding occurs when characters or relationships are given traits associated with LGBT people without explicitly stating that they are queer. It does not necessarily imply that the character actually is queer. Queer coding can be either positive or negative, although it is more commonly negative.

For example, the repressive Hays Code forbade depiction or discussion of homosexuality in Hollywood films from 1930-1968. During this period, the only type of LGBT representation allowed was via queer coding - subtle signals that would be recognizable to queer audiences but would fly over the heads of general audiences and, more importantly, the censors.


http://lgbtfiction.com/index.php?title=Queer_coding

There have been studies that have suggested higher rates of left-handedness in the LGBT community, along with other various traits. Of course, this does not mean that everyone in the community is left-handed. (Notable gay and bisexual individuals that are right handed include; but are not limited to, Thomas Sanders and Bo Burnham). However, there are certain characteristics that do happen to statistically occur more often in gay or bisexual individuals than in their heterosexual counterparts.

Sometimes these traits are exaggerated for the purposes of comedy in various forms of media. Not always though.

*Various minor spoilers for "Be More Chill ahead, you have been warned*


In "Be More Chill" (the musical) there is the character of "Rich" who is revealed to be bisexual at the end. During the musical he often puts on a loud, outgoing and masculine voice. His actual inflections, lisp and tone are hidden most of the time, except when he is reflecting emotionally on past events or when he is no longer under the control of a super robot. This tells the audience that there might be more to Rich than what you'd expect, as the notable change in voice highlights just how much the robot is controlling him by making it obvious when it is Rich in control of his body (somewhat feminine voice with lisp) VS the super computer (loud, outgoing and masculine with no sign of lisp).

People were divided by Rich's portrayal, some disliked the use of lisp and found it overly stereotypical/ cliche', whereas others found it to be a clever way to show how the robot affected his life. After breaking free of the robot's control, Rich has a sudden realisation that he is bisexual. It is somewhat implied that the Squip (aka the super robot) was hiding this information from him because they saw it as a potential threat to Rich's popularity (since the Squip's goal is to make its user popular no matter the cost).

End of spoilers.

Additional notes: I realise that my use of the word Queer is controversial, but I just found the term to be relevant to the discussion. My apologies if I caused anyone distress by using it.


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