subwoofers! who likes 'em? who hates 'em?

Page 2 of 3 [ 43 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next


like or hate subwoofers?
LOVE 'em! :dj: 26%  26%  [ 11 ]
HATE 'em! :x 45%  45%  [ 19 ]
meh! :shrug: 17%  17%  [ 7 ]
where's my ice cream? :chef: 12%  12%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 42

CockneyRebel
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2004
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Posts: 121,567
Location: In my own little country

12 Dec 2018, 12:53 am

I don't like subwoofers. There's nothing worse than having a nice song in my head that's older than my parents and some kid has a rap song blaring from the subwoofer in the back of his car.


_________________
The Family Schlager


auntblabby
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 115,281
Location: the island of defective toy santas

12 Dec 2018, 1:35 am

I can sorta grok people who dislike bass, I remember at the local state fair there were these Andean native drummers, the bass tattoo from their enthusiastic pounding of their big baritone drums gave me a headache and I hadda get away from them FAST.



SabbraCadabra
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Apr 2008
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,837
Location: Michigan

12 Dec 2018, 6:21 am

Just to clarify, I like a little bit of vibration, but if it's so bad that you can't enjoy the rest of the instruments in the song, I don't see the point.

RichardJ wrote:
Frankly I'm surprised that so many cars that people install those things in don't rattle to pieces.

Ummm...actually...they usually do =)

The screws will start vibrating themselves loose, and the rear-view mirror will detach from the glass...real fun stuff, there.


_________________
I'll brave the storm to come, for it surely looks like rain...


naturalplastic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Age: 71
Gender: Male
Posts: 35,189
Location: temperate zone

12 Dec 2018, 10:24 am

auntblabby wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I'd like some Cherry Garcia, please. Otherwise, I know nothing about "subwoofers," except that it's the name of some amplifier type thing.

a subwoofer is a big electronic box on the floor, with a big woofer or multiple smaller woofers in it, whose sole purpose is to produce loud deep bass to augment the bass reproduction performance of an existing stereo sound system. a regular ordinary stereo sound system tends to peter out below about 40 cycles per second, or roughly the low E on a string bass [41.3 cycles to be exact]. subs reproduce the range from about 40 cycles all the way down below 20 or even below 16 cycles which is the lowest tone a 32' pipe organ can produce. movie theatres have them hidden behind the screen, they reproduce the boom and rumble on movie soundtracks. the movie "Earthquake!" in 1974 used about 10 refrigerator-sized Cerwin-Vega subs to reproduce the sounds of a southern California earthquake on screen. I knew somebody who attended a showing and said it made his teeth rattle and his guts quake.


Subwoofers make you feel the sound more than you hear it.

But yeah. You Krafty, have heard of "woofers and tweeters", and are familiar with how "tweeters" are the little round things inside your stereo speaker that put out the high notes, and woofers are the big round things underneath that put out the low notes (and sometimes they put a middle sized thing in the middle position for the midrange notes). A subwoofer is just taking it one step further and putting an even bigger ginormous horn underneath the woofer for the sub bass beats (like you hear in post 1990 rap music). So you can...turn your car into a moving boom box, and drive down the street and blast rap music and crack the masonry in all of your neighbors homes! :D



Noca
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 May 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,932
Location: Canada

12 Dec 2018, 11:41 am

I love them only if I am the one using them. I hate hearing them but not the music itself when others like my neighbours or someone driving down the street is using it. I enjoy feeling my music and watching movies a sub. :D



ezbzbfcg2
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Feb 2013
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,991
Location: New Jersey, USA

12 Dec 2018, 11:54 am

Can't stand the damn things and could never fathom the need for them.

Especially in cars. I personally think the bass is a bit overrated. Important, yes, but no need to amplify it. I think the subwoofer is more about a sensory experience. Instead of listening to recorded sound, people want to fake the experience as if the music was being played live in front of them.

I'm cool with the recording as is. Don't need to "remix" it in real time and create vibrations and louder noises for all to hear. Doesn't do anything for me. Don't get the mindset of those who dig them.

Amazingly, it's mostly people who don't really strike me as audiophiles that are big into subwoofers. They buy the best car stereo with the subwoofer NOT for the sound quality, but for the drive-around-really-loudly-with-vibrations-party effect. The audio itself is secondary for them.



auntblabby
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 115,281
Location: the island of defective toy santas

13 Dec 2018, 1:23 am

if it was not for a subwoofer, i'd have never known that the beginning of "Also Sprach Zarathustra" [intro used in the movie opening theme "2001-a space odyssey" - it is a pipe organ producing a stentorian 32 cycle per second bass pedal tone. most stereo speakers of the day wouldn't reproduce that tone.



y-pod
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Apr 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,748
Location: Canada

13 Dec 2018, 6:24 am

We have one in the rec room. I declare that I can't tell what difference it makes. :D I know I'm not sensitive to sound, though. Did some testing before and I had no idea where the sounds were coming from. I always turn the sound off for my phone and my computer, and I almost never listen to music. :o


_________________
AQ score: 44
Aspie mom to two autistic sons (23 & 22)


IstominFan
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 25 Nov 2016
Age: 61
Gender: Female
Posts: 11,114
Location: Santa Maria, CA.

13 Dec 2018, 4:42 pm

I hate them. They're not only obnoxious, but they make me feel like my heart is beating funny.



auntblabby
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 115,281
Location: the island of defective toy santas

13 Dec 2018, 9:55 pm

IstominFan wrote:
I hate them. They're not only obnoxious, but they make me feel like my heart is beating funny.

there are certain types of music that if accompanied by subwoofer bass, can be hazardous, especially if it has an anapestic beat [in opposite cadence to heart beat].



naturalplastic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Age: 71
Gender: Male
Posts: 35,189
Location: temperate zone

13 Dec 2018, 10:25 pm

Interesting.

Even without a subwoofer I actually got a pain in my chest once from listening to a cd of enhanced base club music(it was a compilation of Asian Indian techno with odd exotic rhythms- done in the modern club style with artificially enhanced base).



auntblabby
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 115,281
Location: the island of defective toy santas

13 Dec 2018, 10:46 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Interesting. Even without a subwoofer I actually got a pain in my chest once from listening to a cd of enhanced base club music(it was a compilation of Asian Indian techno with odd exotic rhythms- done in the modern club style with artificially enhanced base).

techno tends to use the anapestic-type beat, it is a feature of much modern music, and as long as it is not blasted loudly with the bass turned up, not much problem. but turn up the volume and then people like Dr. John Diamond MD [who studied the physiological effect of music on people] found that real physical harm could take place especially with the cardiovascular system. and a subwoofer is not required to reproduce the bottom octave of sound, a sufficiently large and heavy-duty stereo speaker can do the trick as well, though often expensively. a subwoofer is a shortcut to deep bass.



ezbzbfcg2
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Feb 2013
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,991
Location: New Jersey, USA

14 Dec 2018, 7:12 am

auntblabby wrote:
IstominFan wrote:
I hate them. They're not only obnoxious, but they make me feel like my heart is beating funny.

there are certain types of music that if accompanied by subwoofer bass, can be hazardous, especially if it has an anapestic beat [in opposite cadence to heart beat].


And it seems like most people abusing subwoofers (sorry, "sharing" their music with the world) are blasting anapestic beats.



Gaara
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 9 Feb 2015
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 209

14 Dec 2018, 4:25 pm

Those that just used them to have car shattering boom boom noise, yeah they're annoying.

My speakers have a subwoofer but it barely does anything.



auntblabby
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 115,281
Location: the island of defective toy santas

14 Dec 2018, 8:26 pm

it should be noted, that if a subwoofer is adjusted correctly, with most music you won't hear much from them. the people who can't hear their subs in operation may not have them turned up far enough or are listening to bass-shy music. :idea:



ezbzbfcg2
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Feb 2013
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,991
Location: New Jersey, USA

16 Dec 2018, 4:52 pm

auntblabby wrote:
it should be noted, that if a subwoofer is adjusted correctly, with most music you won't hear much from them. the people who can't hear their subs in operation may not have them turned up far enough or are listening to bass-shy music. :idea:


Sounds kind of contradictory.

If adjusted correctly, you hear (virtually) nothing.
If not adjusted correctly, you hear nothing (or are listening to bass-shy music).

So, what purpose do they serve, other than to be turned up to the point where the bass is blasting obnoxiously?