20 Nov 2019, 6:02 pm
Mountain Goat wrote:
I think I read this thread too quickly. I read that ones parents and grandparents are virgins? Hang on. How is that possible? I may need to read this again! 
Is this a joke? I was referring to the fact that many direct descendants on my mother's side of the family have been late bloomers and lost their virginity much later than what societal norms demand. Not to mention having their first relationships much later than societal norms demand.
20 Nov 2019, 6:10 pm
Leon_Trotsky wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
I think I read this thread too quickly. I read that ones parents and grandparents are virgins? Hang on. How is that possible? I may need to read this again!
Is this a joke? I was referring to the fact that many direct descendants on my mother's side of the family have been late bloomers and lost their virginity much later than what societal norms demand. Not to mention having their first relationships much later than societal norms demand.
Sorry. I read it too quick. I understand what you mean now. I have a slightly blurred eye this evening, hence why I read quickly.
I'm a virgin. Been one all my life so far.
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20 Nov 2019, 6:24 pm
20 Nov 2019, 11:02 pm
Leon_Trotsky wrote:
Borromeo wrote:
Or you could wait for a lady who sees this as a positive, as someone who has lots of self-control and can think of things to do other than seek sexual gratification.
Well that would be the ideal and what I am trying to do, but after decades it has not happened. And I am having trouble meeting any in the first place.
But you are voluntarily virgin. That is very different. I never believed in abstinence or any of that stuff. It is just that it never happened for me. No occasion presented itself, like it did for most other guys. Perhaps I did not really try hard in my 20s, because I thought that it would occur naturally someday. Never did.
I suspect that my mother and some of my male predecessors in the family had similar problems.
This is a sticky situation. Good job on the effort.
Obviously for your mother and your male forebears there was no permanent problem in this department!
I only mentioned this particular "bait" because it works for me (use what you got!) and, well, I believe in it (in my religion marriage is one of the sacraments and sex is reserved for married folks to 1, reproduce, and 2, have fun. They seem to keep Option 2 before their eyes--these people tend to, when they're in good mental states, exude pure Appeal. They've got It, if you know what I mean--and they seem to have a lot of fun!
Now I might be wrong here but if your username is Leon Trotsky you're probably either a 1930s Russia history buff or a fan of socialism/communism/something like that. But the funny thing is, as great as history is, a lot of the girls who would be impressed with the whole abstinence thing aren't going to be impressed with socialism...and might think you're a nerd if you're into history.
I personally detest abstinence. Voluntary celibacy is different than abstinence. You see, a man has urges, energies, that can be used for a lot of good. Sex is good. If you're married you can direct these energies that way (if dear wife is interested or if she asks you) and then if you're not (like our clergy in my religion) you're able to take these and go somewhere else.
Lots of people think it's just biology. I say it's creativity, and we're ether going to create great artwork or do awesome at a job, OR we're finding a woman who's interested in, um, partnering up for a long-term project.
This is all probably rather odd. I'm sorry if it seems bizarre or freaky, but it might make some sense out of why I suggested that bait based on your circumstances.
Oh, and the fun question--Historian, or Communist? There has to be a reason for the username; we Aspies don't make good edgelords.
Hang in there brother!
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21 Nov 2019, 3:30 pm
Well, I have chosen voluntary celibacy due to medical condition.
I have thought that if I can rise above the natural instincts I have won something. I have turned down women. If it is means lack of social skills so be it because common depiction of social skills means being one with the mass. 
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26 Nov 2019, 12:07 am
Borromeo wrote:
This is a sticky situation. Good job on the effort.
Obviously for your mother and your male forebears there was no permanent problem in this department!
I only mentioned this particular "bait" because it works for me (use what you got!) and, well, I believe in it (in my religion marriage is one of the sacraments and sex is reserved for married folks to 1, reproduce, and 2, have fun. They seem to keep Option 2 before their eyes--these people tend to, when they're in good mental states, exude pure Appeal. They've got It, if you know what I mean--and they seem to have a lot of fun!
Now I might be wrong here but if your username is Leon Trotsky you're probably either a 1930s Russia history buff or a fan of socialism/communism/something like that. But the funny thing is, as great as history is, a lot of the girls who would be impressed with the whole abstinence thing aren't going to be impressed with socialism...and might think you're a nerd if you're into history.
I personally detest abstinence. Voluntary celibacy is different than abstinence. You see, a man has urges, energies, that can be used for a lot of good. Sex is good. If you're married you can direct these energies that way (if dear wife is interested or if she asks you) and then if you're not (like our clergy in my religion) you're able to take these and go somewhere else.
Lots of people think it's just biology. I say it's creativity, and we're ether going to create great artwork or do awesome at a job, OR we're finding a woman who's interested in, um, partnering up for a long-term project.
This is all probably rather odd. I'm sorry if it seems bizarre or freaky, but it might make some sense out of why I suggested that bait based on your circumstances.
Oh, and the fun question--Historian, or Communist? There has to be a reason for the username; we Aspies don't make good edgelords.
Hang in there brother!
If you used technicalities, it would probably be "abstinence without choice", as I am essentially practising what people who believe in abstinence do, without myself even believing in it. I have no other real choice but to watch porn every so often to relieve myself.
I am both--historian/communist. Being an anti-capitalist often makes people avoid me especially since at meetups most people whom I meet make six figures minimum and/or are millionaires. You are right, most women here generally do not like the communism thing. But I am not going to change my beliefs just to suit others. I have done way too much of that in my 20s and it always leads to people ending up telling me how to live my life.
If a woman told me that she would be willing to date me only if I forced myself to believe in capitalism, I would tell her that I decline, and that I would not date her. My beliefs are my beliefs, and they are more or less written in stone.
Of course I have this mindset because I grew up in a working-class family, not like these people who earn six or seven figures. Telling people that my grandfather was a fisherman and my grandmother a factory worker, I would say that basically 100% of the time women do not like that because I have a rather poor financial reputation. Other guys often also are like them and earn six figures and/or are millionaires. And they hate paying taxes, especially when it benefits the least fortunate in society.
One time a woman told me that her father is a doctor and her mother also a doctor. I said that my grandfather's family was so poor that he had to leave school at age 10 and was half-illiterate. My grandmother barely graduated high school. That is not good for a status-obsessed area like San Francisco.
San Francisco is a lot more right-wing than people think.
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