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FirstandEllen
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04 Aug 2007, 8:07 pm

You would think that "nerds" and "geeks," being ostracised at some point or other, would try to make their own environment more fair. But no, I, too, ended up hanging out with the "nerds" a lot in high school, just because we were in all of the same honors classes together all day from jr high on, and they developed the same catty politics as anyone else. As far as what I now know put them off about me that was due to my AS, they acted the same as everyone else seems to- wouldn't say anything to my face but would judge me when I wasn't around.

Nerds are no particular landmark to go by, I guess is what I am saying. The same thing has happened to punk, I think- punk kids used to really be the outcasts, and that meant something- now I think it's just another clique kids can choose from.

The hardest part for me is meeting and feeling connected with people. If you can do that, the good one(s?) will accept you and stick around. No matter how few that is, no one else is worth much of your time anyway.



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04 Aug 2007, 9:48 pm

I was a bit of a failed geek myself. The right look, but nothing else about me fit. The stereotypical geeky interests of gaming, mathematics, and computers were never my interests. Also I grew up in a very geek hostile environment. True geeks were few and far between. Who wanted to be with them anyway? I thought that I was completely normal and was destined to be cool :)

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04 Aug 2007, 10:19 pm

blacktext wrote:
I was a bit of a failed geek myself. The right look, but nothing else about me fit. The stereotypical geeky interests of gaming, mathematics, and computers were never my interests. Also I grew up in a very geek hostile environment. True geeks were few and far between. Who wanted to be with them anyway? I thought that I was completely normal and was destined to be cool :)

Old myths die hard.


GEE, I never noticed a "LOOK". What is THAT like? MY look has always been conservative. I got my first eye glasses around 30, and THEY were/are conservative also. I never got a pocket protector though there were perhaps 4 times I wished I had one. I never even often had a calculator or sliderule, although I was probably one of the first on my block to get a calculator. I grew up in the 60s, and I don't think they had electronic calculators when I was born. BTW most geeks I have known dressed similar to me, etc.... NON descript! Then again, many dressed that way.

Gaming is apparently common with a type of geek culture, but I never had that either. As for math, that isn't necessarily common. Computers are the latest tool, and pretty easy for people that are into them, so I guess they define a lot of geeks.

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06 Aug 2007, 4:14 pm

Welcome to my world. All my friends have Aspergers or ADHD. The only one that doesn`t i can`t get along with very well.



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06 Aug 2007, 4:22 pm

gamefreak wrote:
Welcome to my world. All my friends have Aspergers or ADHD. The only one that doesn`t i can`t get along with very well.


I want to be in your world :(

FirstandEllen wrote:
You would think that "nerds" and "geeks," being ostracised at some point or other, would try to make their own environment more fair. But no, I, too, ended up hanging out with the "nerds" a lot in high school, just because we were in all of the same honors classes together all day from jr high on, and they developed the same catty politics as anyone else. As far as what I now know put them off about me that was due to my AS, they acted the same as everyone else seems to- wouldn't say anything to my face but would judge me when I wasn't around.

Nerds are no particular landmark to go by, I guess is what I am saying. The same thing has happened to punk, I think- punk kids used to really be the outcasts, and that meant something- now I think it's just another clique kids can choose from.

The hardest part for me is meeting and feeling connected with people. If you can do that, the good one(s?) will accept you and stick around. No matter how few that is, no one else is worth much of your time anyway.


I think you are absolutely right. While geeks tend to be bullied at an early age at school and are generally outcasts, they will mature along with everyone else. I discovered this when I started working. My team are pretty geeky but they like to have a laugh and get on well with the rest of the company.

At the end of the the day most geeks are still NT.



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06 Aug 2007, 10:07 pm

Something that worked for me when it comes to getting rid of a monotone voice is practice singing along to your favorite music. Since carrying a tune requires varying your vocal pitch, it's good practice in varying your vocal pitch during conversation.



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07 Aug 2007, 8:56 am

I second singing to help voice modulation. I sing all the time. It also helps control volume as I had always spoken way to soft. I have developed what some have described as a good radio voice. Now I just got to work on being able to get words out of it to speak to people.