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28 Oct 2007, 2:59 am

I have to say misery was a well establish phenomenon here long before puberty.

Didn't begin to get better until I was about 15.


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28 Oct 2007, 3:18 am

I think I was oblivious until about 16-17, this was when I really saw life for what it really was, I think I developed slower then the other kids and still thought like a kid even during the first years of high school, then the saddness, depression kicked in as I realized how different (i must have been blind prior too) i am to the others and that I may never achieve in life. Now I am happier, tho still not completly fufilled.


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28 Oct 2007, 9:12 am

OregonBecky,

Junior high was the worst time of my life, due to the presence of some very large and mean bullies. However, a change of schools worked wonders for me. I also found solace in a pet, my Siamese cat, Samantha. She came into my life at a crucial time and was my best friend for 20 years. Since then, I have had more pets, and all have enriched my life.



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28 Oct 2007, 10:40 am

9CatMom wrote:
OregonBecky,

Junior high was the worst time of my life, due to the presence of some very large and mean bullies. However, a change of schools worked wonders for me. I also found solace in a pet, my Siamese cat, Samantha. She came into my life at a crucial time and was my best friend for 20 years. Since then, I have had more pets, and all have enriched my life.


The dog who made me not want to kill myself was named Samantha, too.


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28 Oct 2007, 10:41 am

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Okay... Nice to see you hangin' in there. I noticed I was most miserable during my early teenage years as well.


IdahoRose, thanks for your company about the misery and, also, I love your avitar.


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28 Oct 2007, 10:42 am

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When I turned 13 anxiety became so relentless that I knew that the only way to escape was to kill myself. I messed that up, couldn't keep the pills down. Then I got so emotionally attached to a dog and vice versa that I felt it would be wrong to kill myself and leave her.

So, years and years later, I'm alive. My ovaries are gone now and I think that some of my anxiety went with them.


yeah, I fixated on suicide from early on, too. I have a couple of scars down my right cheek from leaping from my bike on the Amazon bike path in Eugene. I broke my back in a few places and still didn't bleed to death in the bottom of the creek. I had hoped to not have eventually deal with the choices I had made because my hormones drove me into places and situations that made my life far rougher and my resilience stronger than if I had not had them. Since menopause I have gotten out of my own way enough to actually address myself intellectually and make great inroads of self discovery and self analysis. besides, I haven't had an inappropriate relationship since menopause, either and that is a genuine blessing, a genuine blessing.

oh, and I have a deal with my local cat shelter that they take back the cat (microchip) should I shuffle off this mortal coil, just so I can always have the choice unhindered should I need to check out early, again!

Glad Becky is living and that Rose is living. It makes it so much easier to relate to each other!

Merle


I thnk if you and I ever run into each other, we'd have a lot to talk about. :)


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28 Oct 2007, 11:32 am

16-20 where the worst years of my life. I don't think it was due to anything outside myself though. It was more like I just lost my youthful vitality. It got harder and harder to get out of bed and I was more and more painfully aware of everything. It was almost physical depression where I felt like I was trapped in a rotting corpse, unable to experience any pleasure or excitement. I lost interest in most of my childhood obsessions too. I also thought about suicide for a period of time.



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28 Oct 2007, 4:19 pm

It started for me at age 10 when I was taken out of a montessouri school that I had attended for 3 years continuously and sent to public school. Then it became a continuously spiraling meltdown starting at age 11, when a bully moved into my family life. This lasted until a psychologist introduced me to AS at age 36.


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28 Oct 2007, 4:28 pm

Flismflop wrote:
It started for me at age 10 when I was taken out of a montessouri school that I had attended for 3 years continuously and sent to public school. Then it became a continuously spiraling meltdown starting at age 11, when a bully moved into my family life. This lasted until a psychologist introduced me to AS at age 36.


That reminds me of when we moved in the middle of third grade. I was the new kid and a weird kid. In my old school, I think that everyone starts together a variety of different kids in class and have no preconcieved notions of who doesn't belong. We all accepted each other as who we were. Maybe that would have changed over time but I felt like I belonged in that school for the two and a half years that I was there.


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28 Oct 2007, 5:28 pm

Meh, bad things have been happening to me for as long as I can remember, so I became suicidal around the age of 8. It was at this age that I realized I was fundamentally different from other people, that they had something I didn't and never would have. I thought that everybody hated me, and my parents constantly pressuring me to get perfect grades (because I was the family 'genius') didn't help either. It only made me feel worse and worse. Being in school didn't help.

When I was 5, I spent every day walking around in circles trapped in a fantasy world. When I was 6, I got my first attack, a bunch of kids throwing ice at my head. When I was 7, my teacher would openly insult and make fun of me in front of students for always getting answers wrong. When I was 8, I was punched very hard in this nose until I bled, and I had to go to the office; I had a scar on it for a few months. Age 9 is when people started to follow me around and make fun of me when I did my circular walks. When I was 10, I was in the class for 'smart' kids, none of whom I made friends with because I was the 'gay' one. 11 wasn't too bad, I had the best teacher of my life, and two friends. In Grade 7 a bunch of kids found dog s**t in the middle of winter, they picked it up with a spoon and tossed it into my hair while I was circle walking. When I was in Grade 8, kids would regularly follow me so they could beat me up or make fun of me, if they were feeling tame. In Grade 9 I befriended some stoners, but they mostly wanted my money, and I was robbed a couple times, and one time they all started holding me down and beating me up, I nearly had a concussion. Grade 10 is when I became avoidant, I didn't want any relationships with people, I began to fear them. Right now is Grade 11, I am used to being alone, and not having friends has become normal to me. There are no more bullies, I have learned that complete social avoidance is the best way to evade them. Throughout all of this, I have had to deal with turbulent family issues, like my step dad having sex with my sister, my mom dating my brother's friend, my brother trying to kill my dad, my entire family telling me that I am a f**kup who will never succeed in life, yadda yadda yadda you get the idea.

So for me at least, being miserable was something that started from a very young age, being a teenager has only made me realize that it was bad, when I was a kid I thought this sort of thing was normal.


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28 Oct 2007, 7:24 pm

OregonBecky,

What breed of dog was your Samantha?



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28 Oct 2007, 8:22 pm

OregonBecky wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
OregonBecky wrote:
When I turned 13 anxiety became so relentless that I knew that the only way to escape was to kill myself. I messed that up, couldn't keep the pills down. Then I got so emotionally attached to a dog and vice versa that I felt it would be wrong to kill myself and leave her.

So, years and years later, I'm alive. My ovaries are gone now and I think that some of my anxiety went with them.


yeah, I fixated on suicide from early on, too. I have a couple of scars down my right cheek from leaping from my bike on the Amazon bike path in Eugene. I broke my back in a few places and still didn't bleed to death in the bottom of the creek. I had hoped to not have eventually deal with the choices I had made because my hormones drove me into places and situations that made my life far rougher and my resilience stronger than if I had not had them. Since menopause I have gotten out of my own way enough to actually address myself intellectually and make great inroads of self discovery and self analysis. besides, I haven't had an inappropriate relationship since menopause, either and that is a genuine blessing, a genuine blessing.

oh, and I have a deal with my local cat shelter that they take back the cat (microchip) should I shuffle off this mortal coil, just so I can always have the choice unhindered should I need to check out early, again!

Glad Becky is living and that Rose is living. It makes it so much easier to relate to each other!

Merle


I thnk if you and I ever run into each other, we'd have a lot to talk about. :)


Even though I live near Ashland, I do run up to Portland every now and then, surely you are along some stretch of I-5, 101 or 97.

Merle



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28 Oct 2007, 8:25 pm

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It started for me at age 10 when I was taken out of a montessouri school that I had attended for 3 years continuously and sent to public school. Then it became a continuously spiraling meltdown starting at age 11, when a bully moved into my family life. This lasted until a psychologist introduced me to AS at age 36.


Then what happened?



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28 Oct 2007, 8:32 pm

Definitely got worse as soon as the hormones kicked in.

I can relate to alot of what Merle posted...actually can't wait until menopause here...hoping to regain a little more of my sanity.


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28 Oct 2007, 8:50 pm

I had Aspie episodes from early on - being bullied, etc. I was lucky to have attended a very odd elementary school - Fairview Elementary in Fairfax Station, VA. In the late '50s and early '60s, it was mainly a rural area, and was filled with kids who were coming or going because of their dad's goverment job. None of the kids stayed long enough to get real secure. Still, I was called a braggart early on, and was bullied by some the West Virginia kids in the area. (Never did figure out why they were there to begin with.)

All hell broke loose in 7th grade, when we moved down to Warrenton, VA and I experienced the South for the first time. I was a very skinny kid, too young for my age, and the rednecks picked me out as their meat. Still, I was never threatened with physical violence until we moved to Lexington, NC the next year.

Now we have the real South, with rednecks and a mill town to boot. All the kids wanted to fight all of the time. I was a skinny, happy go lucky kid who always managed to say the wrong thing, and was literally running for my life.

I was basically happy during my teen years as long as I wasn't being bullied, and coped with that by being a loner who would arrive at school late, and sneak out early. I was happy within myself and my interests, but was a bad student, and hated school. Ironically, I was given an IQ of 147 in young life, and could read on a 9th grade level in the 2nd grade. Lost all interest in school in the 5th grade, and never recovered. I never could figure out why they hated me. I didn't want to be hated, and tried to fit in, but always failed. Now. I know why, but I still carry a lot of hatred for some of those people.