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NeantHumain
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01 Nov 2005, 5:52 pm

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There's been 341 views so far. Do views from visiters not show up or something?

My guess is the vast majority of these visitors who got the website from MSNBC and the L.A. Times just visit the front page.



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01 Nov 2005, 6:56 pm

There's been over six and a half thousand visits to the Will Fruend thread posted by Sean though so clearly quite a few of them found they're way there.



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02 Nov 2005, 10:47 am

Well a google search for "willam freund aspergers" brought me immediately to your post neant.

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I personally am ashamed for how I responded to William Freund's first cry for help ...


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02 Nov 2005, 12:53 pm

Hi. I picked up the Orange County Register this morning and was nearly floored when I read the front page piece on Willam Freund.

I was diagnosed with Aspergers/High Functioning Autism when I was 18. For years I tried to deny it and went deeper into the drug culture I had become a part of to hide that I was different.

It nearly killed me twice.

But never once, even in my deepest of drug induced hazes did I want to kill my family or anyone else for that matter. Unfortunately the only time Aspergers or any other form of Autism seems to hit the news is when one of us does something extremely bad or they make a sappy feel good movie about "Rain Man". Sadly this will cause many people who dont understand or are just ignorant to fear people like me and think we are dangerous.

Some days I just get tired of fighting stupidity and misconceptions.


To all of you I give thanks. Here you fight to help those like me and give acceptance to those of us that may feel alone and frustrated. You help keep people from being like Freund.

William Freund didn't just have Aspergers, he had many other mental problems and there was very little chance anything anyone would have done would have stopped him short of locking him up.

Sorry for the rambling nature of this post, I'm feeling a little out of it and just plain frustrated.



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02 Nov 2005, 3:54 pm

You know, what bothers me is when "society" decides that we are somehow less because we are different. Now with exactly one incident that even might be attributable to Asperger's, we're violent, too. This is the beginnings of another type of bigotry. Though I would rather be thought of as "feebleminded" than as the kind of dolt who thinks he's normal.



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02 Nov 2005, 4:01 pm

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Everyone needs to feel loved. Everyone needs to feel like they can accomplish something real. It is all too easy for us to forget about those outside our circle of friends and our family. We must never forget the lonely man we see straggling by one day at the grocery store or the poor kid being mocked by his classmates. We all have a moral duty to welcome every person as a fellow dignified human being. We must remember that for every atrocity there was an antecedent. Even the most hardened, vicious people were once sweet, innocent children. What happened to them? We must rethink our values. Does our focus on material success and competition above all else actually foster alienation of the self from society and contemptuous attitude? The fact is we could do more, and we must do more. One more tragedy is one more too many.


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02 Nov 2005, 5:17 pm

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Also, we should tell the NT's that we are the next step in evelaution. We don't feel the NEED to socializle and put up with needless small talk. We are better then NT's. Thats why NT's don't like us.


I'd beg to differ on that one - we're wired outside the box and yeah, it seems like were more naturally divorced from animal instinct, but I'd just say that it makes us different not better. I think a world that was 95% us and 5% NT would be just as much if not more messed up than it is now.


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02 Nov 2005, 5:23 pm

i absolutely agree, techstep.



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05 Nov 2005, 11:09 pm

They told me that they were "treating" me because I was having trouble with relating to others. Aaron commented about society being built on norms. It seems to me literally as if my treatment was aimed at somehow forcing me to successfully relate to others in certain unfathomable ways. If I couldn't, I had to accept life as a prisoner of the medical-industrial complex, a center for tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars of profit for someone who was already rich. There is a serious violation of my civil rights involved here. I have a right to privacy. I have a right to be different. No one can deny my that right, except, apparently, anyone and everyone else. My "treatment" was a cover for a total lack of respect for me as a person and for my rights. By extension, it was disrespect for the civil rights of everyone. They're not rights if you don't have the right to deviate from the norm.