I'm realizing Most people are sadists and can't be trusted..

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11 Aug 2008, 7:17 pm

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11 Aug 2008, 8:54 pm

I'm sorry Wonder Woman.. I'm having a bad day today and I guess I am taking things wrong.. I was badly betrayed by someone a couple of weeks ago in addition to several other things.. as well as the new therapist cancelliing out twice now for personal reasons.. he cancelled all of his appointments.. I'll get over it..

Thanks for being re-assuring. I'm sorry. In the past, people sometimes thought I was being arrogant when I mention my I.Q. score for instance.. but I'm not being.. it's more like.. With my I.Q. score, I ought to be able to do more in life than deliver newspapers.. for instance.. That's much more a source of frustration than an ego-trip.. anyway.. I just wanted to clarify that here..in case anyone thought that of me..

Thanks Post Person for your comments too.. It's glad to know someone personally relates to my personal hell...

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11 Aug 2008, 9:44 pm

Felinity, That's pretty much how I have always felt. Everyone else is playing the game, and they're good at it, and it involves deception and cruelty. They're so good at it that it's effortless for them. I was never given a copy of the rules or even told we were playing a game. And the rules violate my principles.

Fast-forward to now, my kids are in school enduring the same misery.

I feel for you. I also am happy avoiding most people for the most part. We're adults now, and we can do that if we want, right? That's the way I see it.

People exhaust me.

Someone said in this thread that they felt like an Amish person forced to live among the English. That is so funny because I could see that. I was fascinated with them when I was young, and how they decided to heck with everyone and they just defected.

Hang in there. Be good to yourself.



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11 Aug 2008, 10:35 pm

I honestly haven't found most people to be sadistic. I think most people are SELFISH, including Aspies. I don't think most people enjoy hurting others...it's just that most people will seek their own advantage, even if they have to hurt someone else to do it. I think that is human nature and not limited to NTs, Aspies, or any other group.



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11 Aug 2008, 10:40 pm

Jael wrote:
I honestly haven't found most people to be sadistic. I think most people are SELFISH, including Aspies. I don't think most people enjoy hurting others...it's just that most people will seek their own advantage, even if they have to hurt someone else to do it. I think that is human nature and not limited to NTs, Aspies, or any other group.


I think this is true. Good post.



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11 Aug 2008, 11:31 pm

I don't know if paranoia is a part of Asperger's Syndrome or just something that develops later after many misunderstandings and bad experiences.

I do think I am slightly paranoid but to me, that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I don't get taken advantage of like certain others, autistic or not. One thing I do notice is that if you are too trusting you do get taken advantage of. I watch a lot of crime shows and I think that person was far too trusting look where it got them
Sometimes it seems like trusting brings harm to people.
Another thing I would like to say to the OP:

It did sound like you had a bad day in class and were venting some in your topic post. I think after you are finished with school you will feel even better because you worked so hard and finished school. It will show how determined you are, how tenacious, how much you care about your life. I understand it isn't easy because I went to college too and didn't feel like I belonged and couldn't talk to people because I felt so overwhelmed and worried, anxious...so I just stayed quiet and internalized a lot of my fears.

Just stay strong and stay optimistic.



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12 Aug 2008, 4:13 am

Many of these posts make me sad because they are true. Perhaps the worst part is that many people, people who would have otherwise been pure souls who wished harm on no one, have become, maybe even HAD TO become, less honest, open, caring and generally nice than they used to be in order to protect themselves from further harm.



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13 Aug 2008, 9:52 am

Many of us can relate. Good on you for the martial arts training. Keep on with it. I practiced Tai Chi only for a couple years but it was the best thing I ever did in my life. My opinion, defending yourself originates in the mind. The body just follows along. If we are well defended mentally, our body language shows it and people will leave us alone. I'm a novice so what I'm about to say you may want to take with a grain of salt. These are my suggestions:

First of all never let down your guard. Easier said than done but worth it. Be very very protective of your right to be who you are. This isn't arrogance and it will boost your confidence. Aspies lose focus and awareness of their surroundings when they become confused or obsessed. Realize that a part of you can stay grounded and centered even at those times.

Secondly know that when you are balanced and centered in your own awareness, WHEN YOU ARE TAKING CARE TO HONOR WHO YOU ARE, when you can show the world you will do whatever it takes to protect yourself....what you then project is invulnerability. Invulnerability is exactly the opposite of what most auties/aspies project.

Thirdly go ahead and trust people about 70 percent tops. And do it this way. In your mind's eye adopt a martial arts stance. It might be something like this. Turn a bit sideways, feet separated, lead with one leg, bend knees, bend elbows, arms up, keep your eyes on the person(s). This is your self image, the picture you maintain of yourself mentally. Should it be required you can assume the position physically in a split second and/or depart.

Being mentally centered, perpetually guarded in your awareness, and ready to defend yourself in a split second will put you in the perfect position to deflect both cruelty and deceptiion. When you sense the social interaction is headed in that direction, generally you will have time to politely and easily excuse yourself.

Proper timing plus being immune to surprises is usually the only advantage people can have over you in a social situation. Armed with this knowledge and having the discipline to train yourself accordingly will greatly lessen your own vulnerability. Thus your body language will project strength and confidence. When positioned this way both mentally and physically you will be able to handle sadistic people and you will do so with poise and grace to boot.



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13 Aug 2008, 10:32 am

I don't know how many times I've been convinced that people are just evil. That good and/or decent people are the exception.