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06 Sep 2008, 7:16 pm

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Be prepared to get huge gaps between your highest and lowest subscores! Some autistic people literally score in the genius range on some things, and the mental-retardation range in others. Most gaps aren't that extreme, but stuff along the lines of 80/120 is pretty common, especially if you've got a learning disability stuck in there too. I only have a 26-point gap (verbal/working-memory, with verbal being the higher score).


oh my gah! 8O

funny though, that explains a lot.. now i know why i could never beat this girl at a certain game, and why i couldnt improve in certain areas :x thats freaky though.. to be a genius in one realm and a ret*d in another :cry: thats exactly how i am


I think the gap between my son's highest area and his lowest was about 60 points (I believe 150 at the top, 90 at the bottom, or something close to those numbers). It is my understanding that these dramatic highs and lows are a key marker for being on the spectrum. And a very good reason for a spectrum child to need an IEP. I haven't seen the breakout on any NT IQ tests, but I guess they don't fluctuate so much.


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06 Sep 2008, 7:18 pm

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Usually the solution is that you use the "genius" skills to cover up for the weak areas. Plus you get a job in the area where your strengths are, the more specialized the better.



Exactly. Or develop coping mechanisms/adaptations on the weak areas. Once you know what they are, you have the game plan.


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06 Sep 2008, 7:37 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Callista wrote:
Be prepared to get huge gaps between your highest and lowest subscores! Some autistic people literally score in the genius range on some things, and the mental-retardation range in others. Most gaps aren't that extreme, but stuff along the lines of 80/120 is pretty common, especially if you've got a learning disability stuck in there too. I only have a 26-point gap (verbal/working-memory, with verbal being the higher score).


oh my gah! 8O

funny though, that explains a lot.. now i know why i could never beat this girl at a certain game, and why i couldnt improve in certain areas :x thats freaky though.. to be a genius in one realm and a ret*d in another :cry: thats exactly how i am


I think the gap between my son's highest area and his lowest was about 60 points (I believe 150 at the top, 90 at the bottom, or something close to those numbers). It is my understanding that these dramatic highs and lows are a key marker for being on the spectrum. And a very good reason for a spectrum child to need an IEP. I haven't seen the breakout on any NT IQ tests, but I guess they don't fluctuate so much.


What's IEP? and wow that's a big leap.. 150 is considered genius.. its so odd to have such a fluctuation..



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06 Sep 2008, 7:39 pm

Callista wrote:
Usually the solution is that you use the "genius" skills to cover up for the weak areas. Plus you get a job in the area where your strengths are, the more specialized the better.


Yeah.. well I intend to make a living off of my musical artistic ambitions.. but in the main time need to get by.. Oh well.. I may just end up on the street somewhere :?



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06 Sep 2008, 7:53 pm

People have survived worse. Quite a scary thought, but hopefully unlikely.

There are probably jobs related to the same skill peaks as music and art that are easier to get, though... There are a lot of artists on here; maybe some of them can give advice.


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06 Sep 2008, 8:08 pm

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What's IEP?


Individualized Education Plan. It's a set of goals and accommodations for children with disabilities as they go through school. If a child is identified with disabilities which impact school, they are entitled to an IEP, which is usually revised every academic year. For instance, a kid might get extended time for tests, or they might have academic goals which different from those in the general curriculum.

Goals are written by the different specialists who work with the child. For instance, a kid might have physical therapy goals, speech goals, or goals related to social functioning or achievement in the classroom. I worked at a school for kids with autism this summer, and one of my duties as a speech therapist was to write goals for the 2008-2009 school year for the kids on my caseload.



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06 Sep 2008, 8:11 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Callista wrote:
Be prepared to get huge gaps between your highest and lowest subscores! Some autistic people literally score in the genius range on some things, and the mental-retardation range in others. Most gaps aren't that extreme, but stuff along the lines of 80/120 is pretty common, especially if you've got a learning disability stuck in there too. I only have a 26-point gap (verbal/working-memory, with verbal being the higher score).


oh my gah! 8O

funny though, that explains a lot.. now i know why i could never beat this girl at a certain game, and why i couldnt improve in certain areas :x thats freaky though.. to be a genius in one realm and a ret*d in another :cry: thats exactly how i am


I think the gap between my son's highest area and his lowest was about 60 points (I believe 150 at the top, 90 at the bottom, or something close to those numbers). It is my understanding that these dramatic highs and lows are a key marker for being on the spectrum. And a very good reason for a spectrum child to need an IEP. I haven't seen the breakout on any NT IQ tests, but I guess they don't fluctuate so much.




i gad a 52 point difference my highest being 108 my lowest 56 (56 was was my processing speed)



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06 Sep 2008, 8:15 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:
What's IEP? and wow that's a big leap.. 150 is considered genius.. its so odd to have such a fluctuation..


It's actually not odd in a child with an atypical neurology- ADHD, learning disabilities, autism, giftedness, etc. Also, the higher the child's highest score, the more likely that there will be a large gap between different abilities. My verbal IQ is 39 points higher than my performance IQ, but between my highest subtest score and my lowest there is actually 60 points. There probably would be an even greater difference if the test's ceiling were higher, but I maxed out the verbal subtests on the WISC.



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06 Sep 2008, 11:05 pm

LostInSpace wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
What's IEP? and wow that's a big leap.. 150 is considered genius.. its so odd to have such a fluctuation..


It's actually not odd in a child with an atypical neurology- ADHD, learning disabilities, autism, giftedness, etc. Also, the higher the child's highest score, the more likely that there will be a large gap between different abilities. My verbal IQ is 39 points higher than my performance IQ, but between my highest subtest score and my lowest there is actually 60 points. There probably would be an even greater difference if the test's ceiling were higher, but I maxed out the verbal subtests on the WISC.


sweeet.. im curious how i would do.. but since my abilities are more art/music and life philosophy related, I doubt I would have that big of a fluctuation..



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07 Sep 2008, 5:32 am

An IQ of around 50-70 is possible for Asperger's; it's a lot rarer than 80+, but you still won't be hit with another primary label if you are found to have Asperger's.

Funnily enough, as an adult, I've never been given an IQ test by the numerous professionals I've seen (or any test for that matter; well, I did take that OCD one at the hospital).