Do you force your opinions/views on other people?

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no, what you have to do is to find/choose partners/friends with the same habit.

Then, you can speend entire days and evenings with each trying to convince the other that his/her opinion is the right opinion, without becoming bored or annoyed.

You should look up my posts sometimes. It seems I do this a lot, without being unaware of it. I just figure I'm passionate about certain issues, and that's what it comes down to.

Good idea!
Maybe this is where I have been going wrong

I did say that I'm sure she might be doing that. But I know I've changed her mind on some occasions where I've been able to factually prove a point. And in some instances, I've heard her talking about it or telling her mom about new stuff she learned, so I know she's genuine. I also honestly believe that she's a genuine person who wouldn't lie to me.

But I did accept that in some cases she was merely backing down to avoid further argument.

However, I disagree with "You can't change other people's thoughts or opinions". Of course you can. I've had my opinions changed by people more knowledgeable about things than me who've enlightened me. There's no GUARANTEE of changing anyone's opinion... but it certainly IS possible.

LOL but that doesn't get us anywhere. One of us has to give up or else it will never end. Those are the things we can't win over. One of us has to drop it.

They chose to change it, even you. You didn't make them, nor did they make you.

The new information was the contributing and dynamic factor in the change. Certain people have changed my opinion on things... it didn't happen by itself.

Sometimes yes.
I just walk away when it gets too much.

He is a bit of an extreme case though and I am used to him.
Sometimes he's really funny, but I can kind of understand why his:

"I'm right and you're all idiots and I'm never wrong." viewpoint does grate on a lot of people.

Lots of people lose patience with him over the years because they simply cannot reason with him. When they try to say something sensible to him. He thinks he's ever so clever telling jokes and talking over them. He boasts about how clever he is even when he knows little about a subject. He's actually proud of himself and his opinions and is completely oblivious to his own silliness and self-centredness.

He doesn't seem to understand that other people may have different views on life to him (I am a little guilty of this myself too).
I don't think he'll ever change.
That's just his personality.

Is he aspie?

I do this to, but I don't care if anyone agrees with me or shares my opinions on anything, my parents were complete opposites that didn't try to change the other and probably had the best relationship I have ever seen, so to me it just doesn't matter if someone agrees with me or not, but if there is a hole in the logic of someones (who I feel is intelligent and that I respect) opinion or if they say something that I know is incorrect, I cannot keep my mouth shut, if I don't think they have the capacity to see it any other way then I don't care and have no desire to say anything to them.

I have been trying to only speak up with people that know that I am not competitive or argumentative, but it takes a lot of effort and I still can barely contain myself when I know better than to say something that will start a disagreement (I hate arguing), but I just love it when you come across someone that is also interested in uncovering the truth rather than getting all caught up in who is right and who is wrong.. talk about mind expanding!!

I do, sometimes. People tend to resent it and think of a million reasons not to listen. Instead of listening, they sit there, thinking of reasons not to listen while I am talking.
Thing is, when they do the same thing, give a long winded monologue from their own point of view, they expect me to listen to them, which I don't do because they didn't listen to me.
Why should someone be expected to listen to you when you won't listen to them?
I don't actively endorse double standards.

So, what we have here is endless sessions of non listening.
A real failure to communicate. The exception being: what everyone wants no one gets, lols.
The way I see it is, if you want people to listen to you you'd sure better listen to them.

Two wrongs don't make a right they just cancel each other out.

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I suspect so and he is a close relation.

He said himself that he didn't believe that AS existed

It would probably be futile to test him though (he's probably too old for it to be useful).
He has other health issues that are being treated and getting support for so no-one seems to mind.

I don't try to force my opinions on others. However, stating my opinions and the facts to back them up is often seen as being forceful.

It also seems that doing it twice is arrogance, three times is insulting, four times is belligerence, and five or more times is an attack.

If people can not handle a valid fact-based conclusion, then that is their problem, and not mine.

An opinion could be on anything, theft, rape, murder, but that's their opinion and when it comes to opinion there IS no right or wrong. I have no right to attempt to change another persons opinion as they do not have the right to change mine. Although I think this in theory I find this is rarley the case.

Yes, I do! And I don't understand why this is not like it's supposed to be, cause I'm allways right.
But I've mellowed down a bit during the years. Still, sometimes I just got to. Black & white, a well known trait, I'm very like that

Only things I will argue about is facts. If I am right, I will try and prove I am right. I tell them to look it up. If I am arguing with an online friend, I will try and find the link and show it to them if I know where to find the fact.