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14 Feb 2009, 8:08 pm

black license is a 'full' unrestricted car license. You get your Learners, then you get P Plate which is like provision/probationary, then comes the 'black' licence. it's to do with the colour of forms in old days and it varies from state to state what they call it.

I think I've heard about US driving speeds, a lot of the states here are reducing maximums because of perceived accident rates/insurance stats etc, but it's often just a revenue raiser. I think the NT here (Northern Territory) has some completely unlimited roads, ie do whatever speed you feel is safe for your vehicle.

added later: no I'm wrong about that they only introduced speed limits in the last couple of years, it's either 130k or 110 top speed depending on the type of road.

http://blogs.drive.com.au/2007/07/nt_ro ... speed.html



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14 Feb 2009, 8:16 pm

Licensing to drive is the biggest crock of manure. A license shouldn't be required to drive.

People with suspended licenses or no license drive all the time. License is little more than government control. DMVs should be abolished.


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14 Feb 2009, 8:41 pm

I don't know about other states in the US, but the Victorian restriction on passengers for class P licenses is kind of like our GDL system here in Tennessee. In Tennessee you can start the process at 15 of learning how to drive, and eventually get up to a class D (normal) license at 18. Here is the breakdown:

Learner's Permit
Minimum Age: 15
Requirements: Pass written/computer knowledge test; pass a vision test (you can use corrective lenses during this but if you do they put a restriction on your liscense requiring corrective lenses while driving)
Restrictions:
*Must have a licensed driver over 21 riding shotgun at all times
*No other passengers allowed
*Cannot drive from 2200 to 0500, during severe weather, or on unpaved road surfaces (The last two are a little iffy, I'm not sure about them)
*Cannot recieve 6 or more record points (you get points against you for accidents and tickets)

Restricted Intermediate
Minimum Age: 16
Requirements: Retain LP for minimum of 6 months while keeping a clean record; pass a practical driving exam from either the DMV or an accredited driving school.
Restrictions:
*No more than 1 passenger (you must have a 21+ licensed driver riding shotgun to carry more)
*Cannot drive from 2300 to 0400
*Cannot recieve more than 6 record points

Unrestricted Intermediate
Minimum Age: 17
Requirements: Retain RI for mimimum of 12 months while keeping a clean record
Restrictions:
*Cannot recieve more than 6 record points

Class D
Mimimum Age: 18
Requirements: None
(Standard adult license)


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14 Feb 2009, 9:06 pm

I've been driving for a month now. At 25, I didn't have to do anything special, legally, to get my license; but I did have to get a driving instructor to teach me how. It only took two months. I was surprised because when I was 16 I took driver's education twice and failed it twice. I think something changed developmentally between 16 and 25.


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14 Feb 2009, 11:28 pm

Callista wrote:
I've been driving for a month now. At 25, I didn't have to do anything special, legally, to get my license; but I did have to get a driving instructor to teach me how. It only took two months. I was surprised because when I was 16 I took driver's education twice and failed it twice. I think something changed developmentally between 16 and 25.


That is the case for a lot of aspies here in Victoria you can get a learner permit at 16, probationary licence at 18 (min) and a full licence at 22 (min). I will be 31.5 when I get a full licence but personally dont find the restrictions too bad. I do think that 3 yrs probation for a 28 yr old is too long though in some other Aussie states you only have it for a yr if you are over 25. I know at 16 I would not have been ready to get a learner permit and in fact I was not allowed to mum wouldnt let me. Even at 18 I was not ready to learn to drive I waited until I was able to and that was 27 for learners and 28 (last August) for licence. I look forward to getting a car.



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15 Feb 2009, 4:17 am

Looked for a few cars today but nothing was suitable hopefully something will come up soon.



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15 Feb 2009, 5:24 am

the required practice hours and other such BS were a contributing factor to me not bothering to license up until i was 20

within a year i got a commercial license as well, its fun



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15 Feb 2009, 5:48 am

Nakpinji wrote:
the required practice hours and other such BS were a contributing factor to me not bothering to license up until i was 20

within a year i got a commercial license as well, its fun


Yeah it is the same here a lot of people wait for similar reason I mean 120 hours for under 21s is a lot of hours and not everyone has parents to take them out.



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15 Feb 2009, 6:04 am

Drive...drive like the wind!


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15 Feb 2009, 6:42 am

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16 Feb 2009, 1:16 am

love the photo I hope you get a licence to drive one of those my boss just got his at 50ish



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18 Feb 2009, 4:54 am

ive narrowed down my search for cars to volvo's and peugeots as they are apparently safer



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18 Feb 2009, 5:04 am

Ah, the "fun" of getting a driver's license. Lemme tell ya...it took me FIVE times to pass the written test, and the time I actually got my license, I also managed to fail the driver's test TWICE. Well, I was happily driving back from the mall one day after I graduated high school, and accidentally gave some woman driver a fender bender( lotta details, but I confess...I messed up)...unfortunately, at the time I had no self esteem or self confidence, and when she called a policeman over, I said something that you NEVER EVER SAY TO A POLICE DRIVER IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT:

"I'm not fit to drive"

Yeah...they made me re-take the written and driver's tests AGAIN! Thankfully, they were both on the same day, and I passed both.

Well, upon moving to Ohio, I had to re-take the written test to get my new license. I failed the first time....but passed the second time. :)



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18 Feb 2009, 5:39 am

TheDoctor82 wrote:
I said something that you NEVER EVER SAY TO A POLICE DRIVER IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT:

"I'm not fit to drive"

. :)


Lol thars so funny us aspies always say way too much at all the wrong times. Dont worry I have done similar stuff too in fact it happens a fair bit.



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18 Feb 2009, 5:45 am

Catster2 wrote:
TheDoctor82 wrote:
I said something that you NEVER EVER SAY TO A POLICE DRIVER IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT:

"I'm not fit to drive"

. :)


Lol thars so funny us aspies always say way too much at all the wrong times. Dont worry I have done similar stuff too in fact it happens a fair bit.


It's why I learned just to stop talking so much. I'm really beginning now to pay attention to how I talk to people...not to improve it mind you, as I don't see that happening to that much of an extent. But more to notice all of where I flub it up, to notice just how bad it really is...and I'll even occasionally make fun of how I talk in public, to avoid making any bigger of an @$$ of myself than I already come off as :lol:



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21 Feb 2009, 9:29 pm

I am getting my first car on Tuesday a VW Vento 1996 and am so looking forward to it. Wow the freedom to drive whereever I want whenever I want.