Asperger to be sent to jail for 70 years - Pentagon

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The law often is not fair, especially laws that were written in reaction to 9-11, but they are the laws. If you hack into a nation's defense, you must know there is going to be a nasty consequence. It really doesn't matter the reason you did it; the government can't know the reason, and the reason doesn't change the reality of the information that became available to you.

Which is why I can't stand strict sentencing guidelines. The mitigating factor SHOULD be a judge's discretion.

Hacking computers in the Pentagon is a MUCH bigger threat to national security than murdering people. I'd think that's more important to society as a whole. Those aren't just anyone's computers you're dealing with.

I do not approve of extraditing people to a country they have not stepped foot in. I do not believe people should be subject to the legal jurisdiction of nations where they have no democratic voice or representation, unless they voluntarily place themselves within that nation's jurisdiction by choosing to physically be within that natures geographic boundaries.

This is a British citizen who has never stepped foot within the US, has no voice or representation in the US political system, and therefore should not be subject to US laws/"justice".

I can understand the points of views, ie: why you think he shouldn't be extradited to the US but there's one thing to remember. He chose to hack the military HQ of the free world. They don't take that kind of thing lightly. If he wanted to stay in the UK, he should have hacked something in the UK. Then he wouldn't have to worry. Instead, he hacked a US military installation. Big mistake on his part.

I mean LOTS of things, but WWI and WWII are certainly a start. Let's face it. If not for the U.S., the NAZIs would have WON! Britain, in fact the whole of the U.K. wouldn't even EXIST.

Still, you need allies in PEACE TIME so they will be there when you need them.

so did he find any UFO material?

They wouldn't have lasted long. The French wouldn't put up with Germans ruling them.

I do not believe he did hack the military HQ of the free world. One would think the US had already achieved world domination reading this phrase. I live in a free country, and the US is not the HQ of our military. On the contrary, as a result of exercising our freedom to not have dirty big nuclear ships in our harbors, we no longer retain close military ties with the US.

The US is not the leader of the free world, the HQ of the free world or any other such dribble.

The Hell's Angels do not take it lightly if you report them to the police for illegal activities. That does not make it just or ok for them to punish you for such an act.

I disagree. If he wanted to stay in the UK, it should require no more than that he have the legal right to reside there (he does) and he chooses to not leave its borders.


I am not discussing whether his actions are wise. I am asserting that people who have no democratic representation within a nation, and have never voluntarily stepped foot in that nation, should not be subject to that nation's laws or legal jurisdiction.

AS does NOT make you stupid! The pentagon is probably known all over the planet as a planning, backup, and storage facility requiring top secret clearance on many levels. Do he KNEW what he was doing.

BTW, ironically, any UFO related stuff is probably pretty much offline, as far as the pentagon is concerned. The Air Force hasn't encouraged reports for over 30 years, and the pentagon isn't into that sort of thing.

The ONLY country that can try him is the U.S.! !! !! ! WHY? Because THEY are the one having all that he put at risk. No other country has any legal standing, unless they want to say that one of their criminal's comfort is more important than the security of the PLANET! THINK ABOUT IT! If the locations of subs, that help to protect europe, are released, some other country might want to plan an attack against europe! If allied troup movements are reported, then all THOSE people could die. This is NOT about the comfort of one person, but security of secret tactical data.

And if he REALLY wanted to know about UFOs, why didn't he try FOIA? How about the skunk works? Area 51? The airforce? Frankly, his claims don't hold water.

You might be right. They might have just sent the FRENCH to the gas chambers. HECK, they might have resorted to fighting WWII like they did WWI! As bad as the nazis were, they didn't fight the wars like WWI!

We are all members of NATO, at any rate. It was more a figure of speech. Still, no denying he did hack the Pentagon. He didn't hack a site in the UK. That was my point. If the UK wants as little to do with the US as possible, why did someone from the UK hack the Pentagon? Can't have the proverbial cake and eat it too.


Looking at Nazi policy, they probably would have killed or imprisoned anyone who didn't agree with them. Would they have successfully occupied France for long? It's uncertain. The French detested them but they had draconian policies for any dissenters so who knows?

Guilty.

Send him to prison.

No Parole.

Next case.

If anything he was doing them a BIG FAVOR! They should've investigated the methods he used to hack into the Pentagon. Using this information, they should have hired them to that the government can take steps towards making the system more and more inaccessible to hackers.

I'm just not convinced. His symptoms suddenly appearing, and UFO claims are a mite too convenient. I'm sure I read that he actually and pointedly caused considerable damage.

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How well do you know about your ww2 history and the construction of IG Farben? - I just ask because it's such a run of the mill position you adopt so immersed in emotive patriotic speil .. it doesn't necessarily bear relation to the realities of Wall st's role.

If not for the 20 Million Russians who gave their lives, the Nazi's would have won. I don't suppose you were ever told that bit in American schools.