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09 Jan 2006, 11:10 am

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Agreed - Gay pride is acceptable, racial pride is acceptable, so why shouldn't autistic pride be acceptable?


I see no reason why it isn't. Cannot argue with your reasoning. It is sound.


Pardon me for being an anus, but I find the whole concept of revolving Autistic Pride Day where autistics make a spectacle of one's self in these festivals by building a mountain made out of lego or showing off their other savant skills, for example, stomach churning because we're acting like clowns for the "norms" personal amusement, and I ain't society's b***h.



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09 Jan 2006, 11:13 am

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And I thought owning Sophist with the Burger King crown retort was easy.

Man, that was class.

Oh yeah, Pad lost, so it's 1-0 to me.

Any pseudo-intellectuals prepared to take ze challenge?

EDIT: Oh wait, SB2 did -- and failed as per usual.


Nah,just had to take a break! :wink:

Of course their would'nt be no narrow demograhies of all aspergers that are either honest or not silly!

This is simply my opinion/feeling that I stand by. I think aspies are honest compared to the general population, but obiviously you think otherwise. Let leave it like that.

by the way, nice aviator!

also do you like chinese food?! I hope you check out my"favoeite foods" thread. :D :P

By the way, It's 1-0 me! :D :P

Youuu lose! :) :D :P

??? :D :P



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09 Jan 2006, 11:16 am

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also do you like chinese food?! I hope you check out my"favoeite foods" thread. :D :P



Yeah, I like Chinese food; chow mein and curry are my favourite dishes.

And what has this got to do with the topic? Dunno, peeps, felt like derailing.



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09 Jan 2006, 11:18 am

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also do you like chinese food?! I hope you check out my"favoeite foods" thread. :D :P



Yeah, I like Chinese food; chow mein and curry are my favourite dishes.

And what has this got to do with the topic? Dunno, peeps, felt like derailing.


I have no idea! :lol:



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09 Jan 2006, 11:23 am

pad wrote:
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also do you like chinese food?! I hope you check out my"favoeite foods" thread. :D :P



Yeah, I like Chinese food; chow mein and curry are my favourite dishes.

And what has this got to do with the topic? Dunno, peeps, felt like derailing.


I have no idea! :lol:


Then it seems that you have no understanding of the definition of "derailing", so I'll educate.

Derail is a verb which means that you are off track on someting as in, "I'm derailing because I'm completely going off topic by explaining the definition of derail because people are too lazy or preoccupied to use dictionary.com sometime."



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09 Jan 2006, 11:25 am

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pad wrote:
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pad wrote:

also do you like chinese food?! I hope you check out my"favoeite foods" thread. :D :P



Yeah, I like Chinese food; chow mein and curry are my favourite dishes.

And what has this got to do with the topic? Dunno, peeps, felt like derailing.


I have no idea! :lol:


Then it seems that you have no understanding of the definition of "derailing", so I'll educate.

Derail is a verb which means that you are off track on someting as in, "I'm derailing because I'm completely going off topic by explaining the definition of derail because people are too lazy or preoccupied to use dictionary.com sometime."


No, I mean I have no idea what this have to do with the topic. sorry... I should've been much clearer there. :oops:

I think I do understand derailing though. thank for the definition anyway... :wink:



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09 Jan 2006, 11:30 am

pad wrote:
thepeaguy wrote:
pad wrote:
thepeaguy wrote:
pad wrote:

also do you like chinese food?! I hope you check out my"favoeite foods" thread. :D :P



Yeah, I like Chinese food; chow mein and curry are my favourite dishes.

And what has this got to do with the topic? Dunno, peeps, felt like derailing.


I have no idea! :lol:


Then it seems that you have no understanding of the definition of "derailing", so I'll educate.

Derail is a verb which means that you are off track on someting as in, "I'm derailing because I'm completely going off topic by explaining the definition of derail because people are too lazy or preoccupied to use dictionary.com sometime."


No, I mean I have no idea what this have to do with the topic. sorry... I should've been much clearer there. :oops:

I think I do understand derailing though. thank for the definition anyway... :wink:


Eh, it's okay. If I thought you were stupid, I wouldn't have explained it to you.



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09 Jan 2006, 11:52 am

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Agreed - Gay pride is acceptable, racial pride is acceptable, so why shouldn't autistic pride be acceptable?


I see no reason why it isn't. Cannot argue with your reasoning. It is sound.


Pardon me for being an anus, but I find the whole concept of revolving Autistic Pride Day where autistics make a spectacle of one's self in these festivals by building a mountain made out of lego or showing off their other savant skills, for example, stomach churning because we're acting like clowns for the "norms" personal amusement, and I ain't society's b****.


No need to beg forgiveness for being an anus. Every community has members that serve to ferform certain functions. Like the anus of this community, you too are needed.

Just put on your orange wrist band and hushup. Do you have to put on a spectacle in order to show pride? or have pride?
Is there some unwritten rulebook that these things must occur, or you aren't really proud.

Its about being counted. (not in the closet)
its about public acknowledgement (force them to accet you)
Its about rights under the law (afforded to any other discriminated against minority)
Its about being an example (so others can aspire to be)
Its about the next generation (si it won't be so difficult on them)
Its about yourself (your future is not predetermined by your symptoms)


although you do raise some good points, underneath your smart assed reply.

There are some very talented Atrists, you can have a simultaneous ART EXHIBIT in every major City in the world.
There are musical Savants. The used to have the "US Festival" how about an "AS Festival"

Here is the reason. When you start to make some noise it gives courage to those who are hiding. It provides awareness, so others who have not even heard about it can find answers to the questions they never knew. Guaranteed, if it becomes an "en Vogue" thing, many famous thespians will say they are and then the parades will come. They are all publicity whores. Even if they aren't they will say they are to join the cause of the month.

These are some of the reasons for pride.


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09 Jan 2006, 12:29 pm

having a day where people can see you and acknolowdge your differences is important.

you generally can not tell an autustic person from a non autistic person by glancing at them. I can tell if you are black, white, or asian, or whatever or male or female by outward appearance in 99% of the cases. I cant tell if a person is a homosexual unless they tell me either by verbally or with some sort of "pride" emblem. Being educated, I can spot the signs of a person that is "aspie" like, but the uneducated? Arent they the ones we are trying to educate?!
Being an aspie is hard, make no mistake. Its not a road I think I would have choosen to travel had the choice been mine. However, I am what I am, and getting people to better understand who and what aspies are is the first step in really accepting. Again that first step is not always easy, but why should I have to fee compelled to hide who and what I am?



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09 Jan 2006, 1:12 pm

*At the Autistic Day Parade*

Savant: "Oh, look at me, everyone! I can recite all of Shakespeare's plays off by heart! Does that make you aware of my autism?"

Onlooker: "No, it just shows that you have an inferiority complex. Natch."

I don't get this. I celebrate being autistic by living every day of my life, and yet I don't feel the need to have some politically-correct day where I wear some stupid ribbon, eat cotton candy and showing off my savant skills by walking on stilts and wearing a red nose, because that's the kind of crap cliques seem to adhere -- the need to feel special and unique -- and being autistic doesn't make be special, just who I am, and I am content with just that.

And I only create awareness only to the people that want to get to know me better, not the a**holes who think I am stupid because it's a waste of time trying to get people to understand when they simply do not like you for being you, so I don't feel the need to ram it down their throats, thanks. There are also facilites, conferences, online forums that do a better job in creating awareness than some stupid day, which is celebrating something regarded as "diverse" that I don't really see the big deal why it must be celebrated for.



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09 Jan 2006, 2:19 pm

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If not pride, what then? I hate the wat we are treated by NTs, and I think that its vile the way that I am treated, but I also understand that If we do not show that we are PROUD of who we are, then no one else will take the time to understand us nor will they try.

Understanding comes through education, and if we "hide" who we are from the public we may never gain acceptance on any level becuase people wont be educated as to who we are!


From my experience, you can tell a million people about Autism and Asperger's and they still wont get it.

I'm not one who hides my condition from people. But sometimes it is pointless to even let people know when every response I get from them is a "huh" or a "what".



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09 Jan 2006, 2:27 pm

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If not pride, what then? I hate the wat we are treated by NTs, and I think that its vile the way that I am treated, but I also understand that If we do not show that we are PROUD of who we are, then no one else will take the time to understand us nor will they try.

Understanding comes through education, and if we "hide" who we are from the public we may never gain acceptance on any level becuase people wont be educated as to who we are!


From my experience, you can tell a million people about Autism and Asperger's and they still wont get it.

I'm not one who hides my condition from people. But sometimes it is pointless to even let people know when every response I get from them is a "huh" or a "what".


This I can relate to tremendously. It's really tough for me. I'm an undiagianosed aspie and i'm really afraid and not sure what my family will think once I've told them I have this condition. I'm heistant. But I've been myself throughout my life and still no one can't see my quirky and weird differences I have in terms of socialisation and every aspects of it.

Just hold on toonaspie i'm right beside you.



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09 Jan 2006, 2:34 pm

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*At the Autistic Day Parade*

Savant: "Oh, look at me, everyone! I can recite all of Shakespeare's plays off by heart! Does that make you aware of my autism?"

Onlooker: "No, it just shows that you have an inferiority complex. Natch."

I don't get this. I celebrate being autistic by living every day of my life, and yet I don't feel the need to have some politically-correct day where I wear some stupid ribbon, eat cotton candy, and showing off my savant skills by walking on stilts and wearing a red nose, because that's the kind of crap cliques seem to adhere -- the need to feel special and unique -- and being autistic doesn't make be special, just who I am, and I am content with just that.

And I only create awareness only to the people that want to get to know me better, not the a**holes who think I am stupid because it's a waste of time trying to get people to understand when they simply do not like you for being you, so I don't feel the need to ram it down their throats, thanks. There are also facilites, conferences, online forums that do a better job in creating awareness than some stupid day, which is celebrating something regarded as "diverse" that I don't really see the big deal why it must be celebrated for.


I for one do not appreciate the BS act.
"hey everybody, look at me I am the peeguy, aren't i funy, YUK, YUK, YUK"
This thread is finally going in a positive direction, people here would enjoy being discriminated aganinst less. And here you come along, one of us, doing the discriminating.

Shut your pie hole unless you feel like offering some solutions.
There is a place and a time for everything.
Your act is underminding.

"i am the little peeguy' watch me dance, i appreciate if you all stand still."

do you have children?
do you care about tomorrow?


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09 Jan 2006, 2:41 pm

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*At the Autistic Day Parade*

Savant: "Oh, look at me, everyone! I can recite all of Shakespeare's plays off by heart! Does that make you aware of my autism?"

Onlooker: "No, it just shows that you have an inferiority complex. Natch."

I don't get this. I celebrate being autistic by living every day of my life, and yet I don't feel the need to have some politically-correct day where I wear some stupid ribbon, eat cotton candy, and showing off my savant skills by walking on stilts and wearing a red nose, because that's the kind of crap cliques seem to adhere -- the need to feel special and unique -- and being autistic doesn't make be special, just who I am, and I am content with just that.

And I only create awareness only to the people that want to get to know me better, not the a**holes who think I am stupid because it's a waste of time trying to get people to understand when they simply do not like you for being you, so I don't feel the need to ram it down their throats, thanks. There are also facilites, conferences, online forums that do a better job in creating awareness than some stupid day, which is celebrating something regarded as "diverse" that I don't really see the big deal why it must be celebrated for.


Ok, I got to thinking about this again, and I cant understand why you wouldnt want others to know and understandyour condition better. Wouldnt that lend itself to better relations all the way around?



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09 Jan 2006, 3:31 pm

thepeaguy wrote:
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Agreed - Gay pride is acceptable, racial pride is acceptable, so why shouldn't autistic pride be acceptable?


I see no reason why it isn't. Cannot argue with your reasoning. It is sound.


Pardon me for being an anus, but I find the whole concept of revolving Autistic Pride Day where autistics make a spectacle of one's self in these festivals by building a mountain made out of lego or showing off their other savant skills, for example, stomach churning because we're acting like clowns for the "norms" personal amusement, and I ain't society's b****.


I don't see anything wrong with it really. Most of them aren't laughing at us... and at least we get to celebrate ourselves. NTs have yet to have a holiday named 'NT Day' or something. Oh well.



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09 Jan 2006, 3:34 pm

wait, there going to be an Autisitic Day?

yeah! Way to go us.

Nts don't have a "day" because everyday is "their day."
Their surrounded by each other every second and every where they go.

This is my opinion no facts.



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