why are they so many AS fakers?

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I actually like a lot of people, and have a good circle of friends who accept and even like my quirkiness. And I don't think NTs are all bad. (By some definitions I am one. Though not by mine.)

But, I'm familiar enough with the kind of NT traits that people complain about, as far as dealing with NTs, to look at it from that perspective.

So, I wasn't meaning to knock on people in general, nor NTs, nor aspies. More like, there's no reason aspies should be easier to get along with than NTs.

I can't deal well with humans or normal people or NTs so - personally I'm thankfull to be part of all of you and I understand us -and just for a P.S. I do see us as a seperate race

Diagnosed as HFA

I'm trying to help you understand this because you seem interested in it but you keep 'fighting' me at every step. I give up, good luck

There are many reasons why someone might protest loudly to the suggestion that there are a lot of fakers here.

One that I think is common (but could be mistaken) is that many people here were diagnosed later in life, and grew up with accusations of laziness and being told how stupid they are and how they could function as well as everyone else if they would just apply themselves and try harder.

I responded to this because I have had a lifetime of people picking at irrelevant details to determine that I must be lying to them when I was in fact telling the truth. I am not concerned with whether anyone thinks I am faking or not because no one on this forum can impact my life beyond this forum. However, I dislike the way you set an arbitrary criteria to determine who is most likely to be faking based on the length and perceived vehemence of their responses. I do not believe that is a valid or reasonable judgment to make. Similarly, I dislike the way that one of the posters in this thread argued that having friends, romantic relationships, and jobs must make one not autistic, simply because he is using his own condition as a litmus test for people he does not actually know.

All apples are red.

All grapes are purple.

This is short-sighted on your part, I hope? I can't say I'm successful in all of my pursuits but I work almost full-time, have been in my relationship for 10 years and have a couple that we hang out with monthly or so. (I work with the guy). Anyway, it's stressful as can be and I have to try 200% every day with hardcore routines (I'll be late to work on purpose to finish my morning routine) and an incredible support system (parents, husband, the guy I work with that is my friend too).

Communication issues are still at the heart of Asperger's too. If you approach me and I'm not prepared for it, I will either appear shell-shocked and fumble for words or recite the appropriate greeting mechanically. If you approach me in my element or if I need to make a good impression, I can be warm, open and friendly as well as courteous and polished. This is hard to maintain and requires dedicated preparation and lots of mental coaxing to get me through whatever it is. (Imagine chanting the "I'll be home in X hours" mantra.... )

OH and gotta love the constant self-referencing. Can't edit that out in real life.

Just FYI and all,

I wouldn't put too much credibility concerning people and the validity of their diagnosis over the 'net. It's impossible to prove such going just by word.

I know my nephew has AS because I've seen him in person plus I know he's been to specialists who said he has such (his parents take him there). You can't experience these tangible things over the 'net regarding such.

All rebels are cockney

Most early intervention is still currently aimed at teaching kids HOW to fake it and fit in... literally teaching them how to pretend to be NT. Some can't manage it at all, some have some degree of success here and there and others get pretty damn good at it. In all cases, it does not change the fact they are on the spectrum - faking it does no mean they are 'cured'. And our community would be incredibly short sighted and hypocritical if it decided to somehow exclude or revile those who have been subjected to early intervention and succeeded in their 'NT faking lessons'.

Adults have little to no recourse in seeking a dx in the US unless they have sufficient cash to travel and pay the handful of knowledgeable doctors their fees. That right there is no small task. There is no reward for faking Asperger's. In most cases it will not get you instant disability payments - and what a goal - to aspire to survive near poverty for your entire life with a condition very few understand. If people are faking, what's the pay off?

There are times when I feel just like mmcool feels: I don't want to hear about a poster's spouse because I don't have one. I don't want to hear about a poster's friends because I don t have any. I don't wanna hear about this one's success or that one's achievements because I haven't achieved those. This is the essence of the OP. As an aspie I can relate. Of course, if I was NT this same scenario would apply, but it just seems more prevalent with the aspie/autism crowd, especially those with severe communication and socialization issues.

Here's one for the OP:

Why do so little people want to fake AS and other ASDS?

I wonder what the OP must be thinking now.

I felt the opposite. Back when I had no friends and no boyfriend, no spouse, it always made me happy when I hear about aspies having a job, being married and having kids, having a partner. It just gave me hope. In fact sometimes it seems like they handle things better than me and things in life. John Robison for example, he grew up with dysfunctional parents and he was still able to make it on his own and he left them and did it on his own with no support. I always needed my parents. I don't know what would have happened to me if I had dysfunctional parents. I would not be able to get out on my own and make it, I cannot imagine how I would do it.

I think that's what most people call jealousy. If you didn't want any of those things they wouldn't bother you. So if your goal is to have those things why would you begrudge someone else, who struggled past their difficulties, of having those things? Or is it that you think it's not possible to overcome the difficulties of AS? I guess that would make Temple Grandin (sp?) NT.