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04 Nov 2010, 1:49 pm

...Thank you for your symphaty , Horus , I don't have time 2 read yr. whole post , I AM at a library...
No . I am not a scammer .
Would a scammer start talking about the fricking Velvet Underground , for frick's sake :evil: :roll: ?
Would I have posted about old movies , then ??????????? :x
Fine , I'll repeat it , since it's gotten me such trouble:
I ciould use some money :( .
Especially since I have been left in an " in-between " by coming over here , and the EDCM people's stone-like attitude :cry: .
I think you'll find that this whole line has been about this ONE problem , basically my being trapped here and the EDCM people , the foot problem , and , the problem that Dr. Brown was ,, hopefully , going to help with...I kept letting it go along , tried to stay in my rut , stayed with getting along every day , but the rut got more and more limited , and the EDCM people got more restrictive/demanding , and Dr. Brown did come back to the area , and I turned 50 :? :( .
I bet that if I were able to start a PayPal account that I would gave gotten some money !



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04 Nov 2010, 1:54 pm

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I think you are just getting some personal satisfaction out of implying (and that's precisely what you're doing and you know it) that you're a superior being and that he's just dirt on the shoes of society. Needless to say....you could easily just choose not to respond to his posts if you're really so tired of them.
and where did i say this? i never said i was a better person than ASS-P or he was dirt under my shoe, I told him to help himself! my god call the queen! i mean really! now your talking out of your ass, and making wild assumtions about my motives in this topic





You didn't SAY it.....you IMPLIED it as far as i'm concerned and even if you didn't....it would be pretty easy for someone to believe that you did. Either way.....your "tough love"-type approach ( whether genuine or phony) is obviously not helping him, so how about putting a lid on it and offering some other solutions? If you don't have any, simply stop communicating with him. If you're tired of his "complaining", then stop reading his posts. All of this is so easy the average monkey could do it....so don't be a brain-damaged monkey! :wink:



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04 Nov 2010, 1:59 pm

...I believe that I have tried to REPLY , too , to people's comments about " why don't I go somewhere cheaper ? " , et al , by pointing the circumstances - my money :cry: - that have me stuck here :(



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04 Nov 2010, 2:01 pm

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If you don't like it then the rational and fair solution should be obvious and if it is not obvious to you, you really are dense.
nope. and yes i am dense, you have no right nor does anybody to tell me what i can and cant reply too




No kidding :roll:



Needless to say captain obvious....I did not say you had no RIGHT to reply with whatever you wilt. I merely suggested that you might wish to alter your replies since the ones you've offered thus far are stupid, unproductive, unnecessary, callous, irrational, vulgar and juvenile. :)



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04 Nov 2010, 2:02 pm

i dont have to put a lid on anything because *gasp* your not my boss!

and i've already offerd solutions to ASS-P and so have about 123435 people in this topic!
incase you havent noticed, ITS NOT WORKING.

I find it rather amusing i'm being accused of name calling when in reality people are throwing names at me :roll:


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04 Nov 2010, 2:07 pm

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i dont have to put a lid on anything because *gasp* your not my boss!

and i've already offerd solutions to ASS-P and so have about 123435 people in this topic!
incase you havent noticed, ITS NOT WORKING.

I find it rather amusing i'm being accused of name calling when in reality people are throwing names at me :roll:




Nevermind....you obviously can't be reasoned with. I'd be surprised if you're not some American religious lunatic who, in spite of all the hard scientific evidence to the contrary, still insists on believing the earth was created 6000 years ago :roll:



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04 Nov 2010, 2:10 pm

I'm hardly a religious nut, but if i was i'd be offended you just said that

talk some more, wise guy because you really have the intelligance of a lightbulb


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04 Nov 2010, 2:17 pm

...Money , actually , such as , for one , EDCM has kept from me , would , if not selve , HELP many of my more immediate problems , no matter whether people like me saying that or not :? .........



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04 Nov 2010, 2:21 pm

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I'm hardly a religious nut, but if i was i'd be offended you just said that

talk some more, wise guy because you really have the intelligance of a lightbulb





Funny that someone with a stated IQ of 86 is accusing me of having the intelligence of a lightbulb. If this is true, then you are two points shy of the borderline intellectual functioning range. I scored 143 on the professionally-administered WAIS test I took in 2006, which is nearly six standard deviations above your score. Now to be fair, my full-scale (or even my Verbal IQ scores and I always score higher on the verbal section of WAIS) hasn't been that high on any other IQ test i've taken. Nonetheless....my full scale score has never been as low as 86 either. I'm not saying i'm smarter/more intelligent than you just because i've scored higher on IQ tests. Still...I feel no compunction about saying any of this since you were the one to draw first blood in this respect. In other words, you accused me of having the intelligence of a lightbulb simply because you don't like what I had to say.



I don't care if some religious nut is offended by what I said either. Sorry.....but I do not consider people's religious beliefs to be sacred in the sense that they are beyond criticism. It is no more rational for someone in this day and age to believe the earth was created 6000 years ago than it is for an adult to believe in the tooth fairy. Would you still criticize me if I called an adult who believes in the tooth fairy a lunatic?



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04 Nov 2010, 2:35 pm

I didnt draw any blood from anybody. I never name called, or Belittled anyone.

I simply told the guy to help himself! HOLY s**t.

and you just contradicted yourself. (about not flaunting YOUR IQ)

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Funny that someone with a stated IQ of 86 is accusing me of having the intelligence of a lightbulb


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04 Nov 2010, 2:44 pm

Folks who take a strange pride in their IQ score whether they admit it or not, please read this book:

Proofiness: The Dark Arts of Mathematical Deception
by Charles Seife

And seriously, stop.



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04 Nov 2010, 2:46 pm

i never took a strange pride in my IQ. someone was accusing me of being a troll because of my spelling so I simply gave an explanation as to why my grammer and spelling might be horrendous


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04 Nov 2010, 5:51 pm

I've had a lot of the same problems for years and I've been whining about them for years. At one time, the advice I got was good and I took it and it helped with my simpler problems. My other problems are complex and they are not going to change. I'm past the limit where simplistic advice in a setting like this can help.

The kind of advice I get these days makes about as much sense as telling someone in a wheelchair to grow a pair of wings. In real life, some problems require more than a casual glance, and some simply have no solution.

I don't ask for advice any more. I just want friends who can hear me. Those who get tired of hearing it don't need to see me as much, or can see me only in situations where I know better than to whine.

This is ASS-P's place to whine. It's his thread. Any other topic is hijacking.

I consider ASS-P a friend, even though I can offer little practical assistance. Sometimes, just being together is enough.



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04 Nov 2010, 6:06 pm

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I consider ASS-P a friend, even though I can offer little practical assistance. Sometimes, just being together is enough.
So apparently you are together? I'm not trying to be a jerk but i can remember what it was like living on the streets. that was motivation enough for me to want to better myself anyways possible, (wich i finally did through disability) i just dont get it. why would you continue to live a hard life, when help is around the corner?

is it because you are so use to living that way, you just dont care?
drugs and alcohol issues?
mental problems?
like the life style?

I mean yeah. i dont know, but i'd be getting some help FAST. if not for the simple fact alone that being dirty drives me crazy.

i still think hes an emotional scammer, however. and an oppurtunist


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04 Nov 2010, 6:34 pm

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I didnt draw any blood from anybody. I never name called, or Belittled anyone.

I simply told the guy to help himself! HOLY sh**.

and you just contradicted yourself. (about not flaunting YOUR IQ)

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I feel no compunction about saying any of this


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Funny that someone with a stated IQ of 86 is accusing me of having the intelligence of a lightbulb


:roll:


Well....you DID say I have "the intelligence of a lightbulb" did you not?


I was not flaunting my IQ....I was simply stating the facts and if you must know, I obtained a full scale of 94 on the professionally-administered IQ test I took in 1993. I've taken eight professionally-administered IQ tests in my life and my scores have been all over the place.

I'll tell you what Benson, i'll give you the benefit of the doubt for a minute. I didn't bother to read through this whole thread, but from what I did read, i'm pretty sure you did at least belittle ASS-P.


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hey dude, send me some money! i like how your address is perfectly written out and makes sence and nothing else you type on here does.




Ok....if nothing else here....you are IMPLYING that he is a scammer without meeting an acceptable burden of proof. So what if he's asking for money? Crooked politicians, preachers and every other scumbag in the world does it all the time and nobody seems to take them to task too much. Why not start picking on the rich beggars who don't need the money and leave poor and desperate people alone unless you're willing and able to help them?


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I've been homeless before and i never made it anyone elses problem so you should help yourself out. i'm shure alot of people here have been in a similar situation and can relate.

did they ask for money?




Once again.....you ARE implying that you're the better person and that ASS-P is a rather icky fellow because he won't "help himself out". Did the fact that maybe he CAN'T help himself out ever occur to your wooden mind? Are you a neuropsychologist? A medical doctor? A mind reader? Was your own situation exactly the same when you were homeless? How can you be so sure? Are you 50 years old or are you a comparatively young 30? It doesn't seem to me like he is making it someone else's problem in any case. Rather....it seems like he's politely and humbly asking for a bit of assistance. In any case....I would define what you wrote to him in this post as belittling. So either you're a bad liar or you just think it's perfectly fine to self-righteously lecture someone when you know basically nothing about his situation.

Furthermore....how do know you no one else here asked for money? I seem to recall one poster who did recently just because he supposedly didn't have the money to go visit his supposedly ill girlfriend who may or may not exist in the first place. That poster was hardly in as desperate a situation as ASS-P appears to be.



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when i was younger i was more liberal, now that i'm older i'm defintley more conservative. i feel for the guy obviously but you cant take people at thier words especially online.

(notice how nothing he says makes any goddamn sence exept his address for instance)

i mean hello. RED FLAG




Agreed.....you can't take people at their word. Nonetheless.....making unwarranted accusations isn't really appropriate or useful either and that's just what you did here. It's fine to question someone's motives and honesty, but what you said here goes a bit beyond that. Why not simply say something like; "ASS-P....I must be honest with you, but please understand i'm not accusing you of anything. It seems to me that most of what you write doesn't make much sense except for your address. Therefore, I must admit that i'm somewhat suspicious of your motives and honesty. Can you please tell me why much of what you write is unclear while your address is perfectly understandable"?

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Op get your wallets out everyone ASS-P is back for more!

Listen. I dont know if you are telling the truth or not, i cant tell! can anyone?
I cant even understand you. exept that you want concealed cash sent to you!
If you do have those problems, then i'm sorry. BUT, you should really take care of yourself!
we arent your damn case workers here. get your stuff together, pronto.



Talk about someone who is contradicting themselves!! ! On on hand, you admit you cannot tell if he's telling the truth or not and on the other, you basically accuse him of not doing so. :roll: Whether he SHOULD take care of himself is immaterial. There is every possibility he CANNOT take care of himself for reasons totally beyond his control and you have absolutely no way of knowing that. If you honestly think you do....then you really are an idiot. Thus your "bootstrapping" nonsense here is utterly useless and logically untenable based upon what little you know about his circumstances.


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im shure he'll quote you and make a completly gibberish reply saying how im just so mean



I gotta tell ya Benson....your own posts are hardly examples of masterful writing skill So....pot-meet-kettle-black. :wink:

He at least claims to be posting from public library computers. If this is true....then the time he has to edit his posts is obviously greatly limited.


What's your excuse?



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04 Nov 2010, 6:47 pm

Oh dude are you kidding me? Jesus. halp meh.

I think someones intellectual Ego was a bit rattled there.

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Agreed.....you can't take people at their word. Nonetheless.....making unwarranted accusations isn't really appropriate or useful either and that's just what you did here. It's fine to question someone's motives and honesty, but what you said here goes a bit beyond that. Why not simply say something like; "ASS-P....I must be honest with you, but please understand i'm not accusing you of anything


So basically your long winded reply came down to this, Uhm did i get that right alex trebec?

Hmm. *thinks hard* ok, First of all I'm not you. Its extremely irresponsible to think that i should have the same reaction as you would have to the ASS-P situation. does that large intellect need me to further explain myself or do you "got it". durrr

Questioning someones motives is not irresponsible. I dont trust anyone online

Second, I was not belittling anyone. asking someone to help themselves is not did I already explain this to?! and putting words in my mouth, wont work either. i never called anyone icky, lazy, homo, a loser, a bum, or tell them to go jump off the bridge

go back and read!

Third, I have already explained ONCE AGAIN! whatta suprise! why my grammer and spelling are off!

I'm tired. I will not explain myself, My actions, Or anything i do in this topic anymore.

Just because someone has a different opinion about how to handle the situation doesnt mean I automatically pick on the guy. I speak from experiance, I know ASS-P would feel so much better about himself, instead of whining constintly in this topic if he actually did something for himself!

do you know how much energy it takes to complain, and what a bad mood and cycle you get stuck in?

I'm shure a moderator would have talked to me via PM if i was overstepping my bounderies here and havent heard a damn thing from them so obviously i'm not doing anything wrong in this topic.

you and a few others are the only ones with the problem. why i dont know, its not like i burnt your house down. maybe i burnt that lntellectual ego down though so thats why your so upset? *sniff *sniff ittle be ok, you'll still be smart in the morning im shure! :wink: :pig:

Have a nice day, smarty pants 0_o


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