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These are the questions I want answers: How do you distinguished an autistic gene from an aspergers gene? Or is their suffiecent data to suggest that
autistic gene merely means any disorder from the Autistic Spectrum?

Gracias

I don't mean to over react but is autistic such a bad of a thing that one must abort his/her own fetus assuming abortion for autistic is accepted?

Depends on the parents. I personally think it would be wrong but then im against abortions of kids with down's syndrome. It must be a gut-wrenching decision for the parents though and they are hard work so i try not to judge them adversely.

Right now there is no known distinguishable Asperger's or autistic gene so any talk of screening for autism and possible resultant abortion is hypothetical and wont happen probably for many years from now if ever.

What are you talking about, Jimmy this is random ...
what are you talking about.
you wear genes on your lower half, i put mine on one leg at a time.

I would like to kindly ask all of you to keep this civilized.

Shelby

There's no possible way to distinguish an Asperger's gene and an autistic gene, and there's a valid reason for this: A prominent researcher on autism who goes by the name of Lorna Wing, who has founded both Asperger's Syndrome and the spectrum, disowned both because Asperger's research has been misinterpreted when it is noted on Han's research papers that there is conclusive evidence that his patients and Kanner's patients both share similarities which defines an autistic.

Let me see if I understand you correctly: This may be so and you make a good point, But I understand the similiaries between both autism and aspergers alike. And their have been conclusive evidence finding that both have similiaries. That is why their is a spectrum of Autism. But have researchers find any conclusive evidence from patiets(Autism and Aspergers) pertaining to their genetic similiaries and differences? This would give us the real answer.

A couple of theories of my own devising as to why the autistic spectrum is still used by autism experts:

1. Money: The pro-spectrum experts won't acknowledge Wing's doubts simply because this means it would devalue their status as researchers, thus leading to the decline of their ridiculous wages, their published books and no more conferences to boost their egos.

2. Distinguishing the individual's care and level of functioning: The spectrum serves as a medium to distinguish the autistic's good and bad traits where they will know their place in a hierarchical society, where your level of worth is measured by how smart and useful you are in order to not waste society's provisions on those that are deemed as "useless" when they -- the chosen administrators -- have the survival of their society's structure to think about. Otherwise, they'll abide to every individual's whims, thus begins the demise of that society -- this is why having a sense of authority is necessary.

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Reading tis thread, I realize this is anpother day I didn't work on my blog.All this stuff, a lot of it good, based on personal experiance, goes through my head and never gets recorded.

Summmer is coming, the outdoor job I would like is slipping away before I've found it.

And I haven't prpared for my peace group meeting tonight.

So here is where I get frustrated. my friends keep telling me Asperger's is a social construct,
Quit worrying about the demands of society.But it isn't the demands of society that
get to me-its the things I care about but don't get done because of my poor executive function.
P.s.Obviously I haven't read all eighteen pages of this thread-so If i'm going of in a completely anoying tangent, sorry.

For the first theory: if this theory is true, it is somewhat sad and ashame their is no open-minded disscussion of the possibilty that Aspegers may be in it spectrum of it own. Just finding the small bits of information is further progress of the understanding between Autism and Aspergers. I must say i'm neutral to skeptical about a Autistic Spectrum at all.

Push the button. Push push push the button. I've been waiting patiently ... I knew I had my mind made up from the very beginning ... if you're ready ... you better push the button and let me know ... and control ... won't miss this opportunity ... 'cause if you're ready ... you better push the button and let me know ... dip and go.

There's no guarantee that even the Asperger's Spectrum isn't only a behavioral continuum and not due to different genetics. Many of us may act similarly, but we still have many differences. There could be different genes in different families which have similar effects, kinda like Alzheimer's does. The only thing everyone can agree on is that the general label of "Aspergers" is the result.

But I don't even know whether DNA research is even focusing on Aspergers at the moment, since Autistic Disorder seems to be the "Disorder of the Year" (where suddenly the media is carrying it all over the place and every NA in the country suddenly feels so sorry for those poor autistic kids and wants to volunteer and go to walks to help find a cure and wear magnets on their cars). Ah well.

Again, it's all about monopolizing on the neurotic parents using the tired "cure autism!" emotive rhetoric instead of acknowledging the neutral reasearch available which provides better insight on this complex condition we call "autism".

*steals Sophist's BK crown -- because I can! :O*

Peaguy wrote this;

And i think there is alot of value in this.
I will Consider these for sure.

/me just goes and steals another one from another kid's birthday party. /me has a whole stack now...